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iworkatzips 
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Posted: August 11, 2002 at 11:19 PM / IP Logged  

One of the best things an installer can purchase is a digital multimeter, (test lights are not an acceptable substitute). From reading many of these posts, it sounds like digital multimeters (DMM's) are not being used. From one installer to another, this is about the smartest tool you could ever buy. There are even affordable DMM's at sears for under 30 bucks. So instead of guessing what wires to use, you will know which wire is the right one. This will not only save your vehicle, but it will save you headaches and costly repair bills. Everyone agree???

-Brent (Lead Installer at Generation Sound)

cpgoose 
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Posted: August 12, 2002 at 6:42 AM / IP Logged  

I can now finally agree with that.  I had installed 3 remote starters, but had been using the test light that came with it.  Everything worked fine, so I figured it was ok to use.  Then I got to a Ford Taurus, thought the test light was enough, but it misled me and I made mistakes.  I was supposed to find the wires that showed 12v+, of which I "found" 4 of them using the test light, but my install was not working.  It turned out (once I used the DMM), that one of those wires was only showing 100mV, not 12v+.  So this is a case where the test light would just show positive, but not the correct amount.  I was able to hook up to the 3 wires, and everything worked correctly :)

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Posted: August 12, 2002 at 7:33 AM / IP Logged  

I have to agree with Brent as well and add to what he mentioned......... you can not properly install ANY electronic equipment properly without the right tools for the job. Here is a list of tools taht I can not live without ( or at least can not perform an installation in a reasonable amount of time without these tools ):

  • Cordless butane solder iron
  • automatic wire strippers
  • small side cutter
  • hand held cordless drill
  • angle driver
  • electrical tape Installers Best Friend -- posted image.
  • upholstery pry bar
  • DMM
  • light tester ( back up if DMM ever looses power )
Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
GlassWolf 
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Posted: August 12, 2002 at 11:26 AM / IP Logged  
my best friend was this really hot redhead.. but that's another story.. damn I had the worst crush on her for years hahahaha
okay anyway I totally agree, but then being an electrical engineer as well, I'm already partial to good equipment (scope, meters, etc)
I have a 20MHz oscilloscope on the workbenchand currently use radio shack's top of the line DMM (with the PC interface) and have been looking at the Fluke meters as well, though they don't offer much over the model I have now for the time being so its not a priority.
I agree with you. a DMM is a priceless piece of equipment to have handy.
What I'd really like is one that has an Indiglo backlit display, with large characters heh
great for under dash work
-GlassWolf
Pioneer Stage-4, Orion, DynAudio, Fi
sparkyssb 
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Posted: August 12, 2002 at 12:53 PM / IP Logged  
i got a really nice DMM from Radio Shack too....yeah....radio shack isn't the best store to buy expensive electronic components from but that 100 dollars for the meter was a great investment....and I don't come close to doing the install work like you guys do! Installers Best Friend -- posted image.
alitaki 
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Posted: August 13, 2002 at 1:29 PM / IP Logged  
A DMM is an essential tool for the installer as is a test light. Each tool has its useful purpose. One thing that I would like to elaborate for anyone that uses a test light or plans on purchasing a test light is to make sure that it has the computer safe circuit built in. This feature only costs a couple dollars more and could save you thousands if you probe a sensitive computer circuit with a cheap test light which is just shy of a short circuit.
Nikos
crroush 
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Posted: August 13, 2002 at 1:38 PM / IP Logged  

I am not a "rat shack fan" I perfer FLUKE myself :) but it tends to be a bit more pricey!

Craig

Johnnylaw 
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Posted: August 13, 2002 at 1:41 PM / IP Logged  

  One thing to add to what Nokos said...

  The biggest plus to getting a test light with ground fault protection circuitry is that you won't have to worry about setting the AIRBAG off!!!  Although I have never been able to find a "cheap"  test light like this, the price range I have seen is $60 to $120, personally I think thats steep price to pay for a test light, but replacing an airbag would cost quite a bit more.

JohnnyLaw
dan768 
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Posted: August 14, 2002 at 11:02 PM / IP Logged  
Hello i use the evil "probe" this is a computer safe/air bag safe tester.I know that some of you abhor the fact that I use it,but I have been using it for over three years every day.I have never had a problem with it on any alarm install to date.So I say go ahead use a tester, but remember get the MATCO air bag safe/computer safe one.Incandesent ones SUCK!Installers Best Friend -- posted image.
dan
Remember (there are no hard cars,some just take longer to install on then others)
DeathsJester12V 
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Posted: August 14, 2002 at 11:26 PM / IP Logged  

Yup I use the same thing Dan does.....but mines from Mac....only problem is....when you get to multiplexed circuits...need the DMM...So I keep both in my tool box!!!

However, I thought the installers best friend was BONDO!!!!  hehehehehehe  Either that or the Pizza Delivery driver...and for those hard to do installs on your own time ( a.k.a. "side jobs") a six pack of budweiser!!  yes I'm a drunk.....but the flashes of electricity is so funny when you're lit!!  I'm just kidding about drinking and installing, they don't mix!!!  period point blank end of discussion!!!

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