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chriswallace187 
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Posted: April 18, 2004 at 6:37 PM / IP Logged  
That sounds theoretically possible, but it wouldn't work quite the same if the transponder signal didn't run straight to the engine computer. I know on GMs with Passlock II, the resistance code is sent to the BCM, which then sends a data signal to the engine/powertrain computer telling it to enable fuel/spark/cranking. On the other hand though, if you had an ECM or PCM which had the immobilizer programmed out of it, the whole thing would be kind of a moot point.
BTW, brivalen, remember the dinosaurs walking in Jurassic Park? Hollywood can take some wonderful liberties with technical details sometimes, can't it LOL.
Though to be fair, replacing the ECM would probably look something like that I guess.
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So are you saying everything they did in "Gone in Sixty Seconds" wasn't real? Nooooooo, I thought everything in Hollywood was real.
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chriswallace187 
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well those two movies weren't so accurate, but Will Smith and Bill Pullman did defeat alien invaders in one of the Marine Corps' best kept secret battles.
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Another hypothesis. I've seen that show on the Learning Channel called "Repo Men:Stealing for a Living". Several of those repo men had tow trucks with wheel lift contraptions that grabbed a car and lifted it up by two wheels(usually the drive wheels). Some even had rear view cameras and remote controls setup to where they didnt even have to get out of the truck. They literally towed cars and trucks in a matter of seconds. The most notable one, was a stripper whose Civic got repoed. The guy couldnt catch her at work cuz the club she worked at had security guards watching the cars. The repo man just watched and waited till she got off then he followed her when she left. She stopped at a gas station and when she went in to pay, he made his move. He backed right up to it and was gone by the time she came running out side! Ten seconds tops! I was laughing my butt off. Lord knows what a car theif could do if he had that type of equipment.
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I watched that episode, that was awesome!  Pretty funny for us, not so much for the stripper though, I have a good idea on top of all the good ideas you guys have mentioned in this thread; with all the cameras, shaved doors, and sensors, if you have tinted windows, one good solution that would work only at night just because during the day it would be too hot, put a pitbull or rotty in the backseat!  I would like to see the look on the suckers face that thinks hes successfully broken into your car, yet to see a dog to rip him a new face, that would be priceless!
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yeah but then all the blood and stuff you'd find the next day would definately be pricey....not to mention the sob would prolly get a lawyer and sue you, and even sadder....he'd prolly win
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I'm seriously loving this thread right now!!!
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chasesaccessori 
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Tow truck, Tow truck, Tow truck!
I worked with a guy as a Hook man repoing cars about 10 years ago in Phoenix.
Your car is firstcased out. So don't advertise your system going through your neighborhood Mister Boom Boom Boom. If I knew your schedule and I knew you had an alarm I would first cut your battery cable. 9 times out of 10 you won't have a battery back up siren.
If I wanted to get your car away from your house long enough to have the driver of the truck pull up, I would release your e-brake and roll the car down your driveway but, usually the driver would just back up to your car while I threw a chain and hook under your car and quickly rised it up as he pulled away, sometimes dragging your wheels partially down your drive. I had a harness on hooking myself to the truck so we could boogie. About a block away we would pull into a alley and properly secure your car and off we went.
We averaged about 7 cars a nite.
Now I imagine that if you weren't expecting your car to get repo'd that Hooking your car would be that much easier.
Plus I remember reading a response about the steering lock stopping you from steering the car. All I gota say is HA! If I had a separate key cylender and key to plug into under the dash, I can start the car and use a pipe to assist me in breaking the steering lock.
Just remember this! If someone wan't your car bad enough, I don't care what you do to keep it from happening, They will find a way to get it. All alarms do is keep honest people honest.
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i read a magazine article about a reformed car thief who said he gave the gone in 60 secs people all the technical ideas and they never paid him... i have one question, when they stole the ol school chevy... popping the glass on the fog light and apparently popped teh fuse ie sparks waht did that do? of all the things in the movie that made me wonder the most (well are angelina jolie's lips real makes me wonder too) was that supposed to kill the door trigger or something before they slimm jimmed the door because i have yet to see a door trigger tied into the fog lights. well it has been a while since i have seen the movie but i think that is how it goes
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Hey chasesaccessori, that all sounds very interesting but what would happen if the whole thing (you and your driver, presuming as an example) were caught on camera/ tape with the entire action being recorded? Let's say the licence plate of the tow truck and the entire "job" was recorded on tape, would that not be enough to get the thief and his driver stop the fun and spend some time in jail? (If not face more troubles from either the owner of the car and/or the police and more?)
Nowadays more and more people and buildings are
equipped with security cameras, and I personally have installed a few myself for security reasons with a page signal sent on alarm-trigger or masked area detects motion, to myself and whoever want it. Those who have them just love it.
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