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FZRaven 
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Posted: May 24, 2004 at 8:41 AM / IP Logged  
Ok well this will be my first real system, Back in high school i had 2 10" punch subs in a bandpass with a small RF amp if you wanna call that a system.
Anyway to the real point of this post. I'm looking to get a good sounding system in my car, i've picked out most of the stuff i think i'll need. I'm looking for some opinions on my selections, any idea's you guys might have.
So here's what i have picked out
HU
Alpine CDA-9833
Sub Amp
Phoenix Gold Xenon X400.1 400W RMS 1-4Ohms
Comp Amp
Phoenix Gold Xenon X100x2 100Wx2 1-4Ohms
Line Driver
Phoenix Gold Tantrum TLD66
Components
Image Dynamics CS 1.6 6 1/2 Midbass Tweets are HLCD
(HLCD Horn Loaded Compression Driver)
Sub
Alpine Type R 12" Dual 2Ohm VC
Also other random things
Remote voltage monitor for the amps
The sub wil be in a .86 cu/ft sealed enclosure (custom made sub displacment is figured in)
Wire will be 4 gauge fused to a distro block 8 gauge from the block to the amps.
stevdart 
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Posted: May 24, 2004 at 8:51 AM / IP Logged  
It doesn't look like you need help at this point...
Build the box so that it performs well in the worst case scenario and, in return, it will reward you at all times.
FZRaven 
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Posted: May 24, 2004 at 9:06 AM / IP Logged  
lol well i've been thinking about going with a dif sub.
I've been looking at the brahma 12 powered buy a PG X1200.1
Just to let you know i have 2500 to spend on this system, now the one listed above i can pick up for 2000$
If i switch out the alpne for the brahma, and the X400.1 for the X1200.1 it comes to around 2400 And i'm sure i can get some of the things cheaper. that new price is with the brahma the 1200.1 and adire audio premade box. i did'nt find a prive on the box so i figured in 200 for it.
alex75 
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Posted: May 24, 2004 at 9:34 AM / IP Logged  
Looks like a nice set up, what kind of car is it going in?  How many sets of components are you throwing in?  If you really want it to be a tight system, try to get everything from the same brand.  Since you've chosen an Alpine HU & sub, why not go all Alpine?  The AlpineType X components have amazing bass and crystal clear highs and mids.  The Alpine V12 AccuClass amps are great but expensive.
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Posted: May 24, 2004 at 9:34 AM / IP Logged  
AFAIAC, stay away from the compression drivers... If you want REAL sound quality, and if you want to keep them, don't ever look at their output on an RTA... I know. everybody is gonna say "If they sound good to him..." and I agree, I was just adding my two cents.
The Brahma is a GREAT choice, and will give you good output, as well.
I might consider an Eclipse HU, instead of the Alpine as well...
It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."
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Posted: May 24, 2004 at 10:05 AM / IP Logged  

I agree with haemphyst that the ID horn loaded tweeters are not the greatest for SQ, especially not for imaging.  Placement is HIGHLY critical and a slight off-axis position will result in very noticable rolloff and harshness above 3500 Hz.  A much better choice for SQ would be a dome tweeter, prefereably a soft dome of you really want smooth response and flat frequency response (not always the best sounding in a car, granted, but the best performance on the trusty RTA!)

The Alpine HU should be sufficient as long as you don't push it towards max output, and it matches up nicely as high mid-level equipment with the PG amps.  If you go for better amps, then I agree that an Eclipse or Nakamichi HU would sound a LOT better.  Why do you feel you will need a line driver?

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FZRaven 
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Posted: May 24, 2004 at 10:06 AM / IP Logged  
ok i changed up a bit after doing some looking around and making some calls, Now i can't go and listen to any adire products as there are no dealers or anyone with adire around here. but everyone i've talked to raves about them. anyhow so i've changed the system some. Still going with the alpine HU cause i've had 2 alpine decks before this and i loved both. anyway here's the new line up.
HU
Alpine CDA-9833
Sub Amp
Phoenix Gold Xenon X1200.1
Comp Amp
Phoenix Gold Xenon X100.2
Components
Adire Koda 6 1/2
Sub
Adire Brahma 12" in a sealed 1 cu/ft box
Sub will be inverted cause i like how it looks.
Line Driver
Phoenix Gold Tantrum TLD66 6 Channel 8 volt
Wiring and other randomness
1/0 back to distro then 8 guage to the 100.2 and 4 off the the 1200.1
Yellow top
170amp alternator
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Posted: May 24, 2004 at 10:36 AM / IP Logged  
Good call on the Koda components.  But I always recomend that you buy NOTHING if you haven't heard it.  What brands ARE available in your area?  And again, why do you feel you need a line driver?
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FZRaven 
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Posted: May 24, 2004 at 11:05 AM / IP Logged  
Not much
Rockford Fosgate
Audiobahn
Cadence
and thats about it other then what they sell at wal-mart.
I went with the linr driver to get a full 8 volts to my amp. as i've heard it will give you cleaner outpit from your amp.
FZRaven 
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Posted: May 24, 2004 at 11:25 AM / IP Logged  
oh ya any idea's on where to get a 170+ amp alt? car is 1999 ford escort
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