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DaRealace 
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Posted: July 26, 2004 at 4:36 PM / IP Logged  
Deck: Pioneer DEH-3600
Door Speakers: 4 x Alpine SPR-174A Type R 6.5"
Speaker Amp: Alpine MRP-F240 4ch
Sub: 2 x Alpine SWR-1221D
Sub Amp: Alpine MRD-M500
Would you replace anything in this setup with a different part? I'm not an alpine fan-boy I've just heard good things about them so I am willing to venture to other brands. I also am looking for a good sub enclosure for the 2 12" subs so If anyone has a link to a good site for sub enclosures please share.
Thanks
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Posted: July 26, 2004 at 5:31 PM / IP Logged  
DaRealace wrote:
I'm not an alpine fan-boy I've just heard good things about them so I am willing to venture to other brands.
You really need to go listen to anything you are going to buy in person. I mean I have heard good things about Kia but I will never own one.
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DaRealace 
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Posted: July 26, 2004 at 5:33 PM / IP Logged  
Well I have listened to the 6.5" and they sounded very nice but I have no where to listen to the Type-R Subs.. so I am going on by there reputation. Also I have no where to listen how the 2 amps perform. So... that is why I am asking other people if they have used these products and would they reccomend them or... not.
Leif 
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It's not that simple, they will never sound the same in a car as in a show room. Ideally you'd want to hear them *installed in your car*, but that's never possible until you're done.
Remember, car audio is 30% parts and 70% installation (or is that 10/90%?).. So, you will do fine with those parts, as long as they're installed right.
The biggest glaring problem is putting speakers in the doors. Yes, it will work, but I have NEVER heard good imaging from door speakers. Getting good imaging usually requires kickpods. However, you can always start by putting them in the doors - you will not have wasted any money on parts, because you can reuse everything if you choose to have pods made later.
The one thing I recommend (and I know there are at least two people here who will disagree with me) is to bridge the MRP-240 into the front speakers, and run the rear speakers off the head unit directly. 2x40w really isn't enough for front speakers, but 2x100w is. The 2x25w you will get from the head unit is plenty for the rear speakers, as long as you have them turned down low enough not to distort (i.e. clip the head unit's output amp).
Which car are you putting this in?
If you happen to have a 4th generation F-Body (camaro or firebird), I happen to have a custom enclosure WITH two of the exact subs you specify, laying around! (came out of my 2001 trans am when I sold it). Fits snugly into the well where the t-tops usually go. Fat chance that you'd have that exact car, but I figured it's worth a shot!
I also have an Alpine MRV-1507 (1x1000w) and an MRV-F407 (2x144w or 4x50w) that came out of that same car.
///Leif
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Posted: July 26, 2004 at 5:45 PM / IP Logged  
Perhaps should have mentioned - I do like the sound of the Type-R subs. Very warm and smooth, and they punch hard :).
///Leif
DaRealace 
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Posted: July 26, 2004 at 8:18 PM / IP Logged  
Sorry, it happens to be a 97 Pathfinder. But are you willing to sell the subs by themselves?
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Posted: July 26, 2004 at 8:23 PM / IP Logged  

You really need to go listen to anything you are going to buy in person. I mean I have heard good things about Kia but I will never own one.

It's not that simple, they will never sound the same in a car as in a show room. Ideally you'd want to hear them *installed in your car*, but that's never possible until you're done.
Remember, car audio is 30% parts and 70% installation (or is that 10/90%?).. So, you will do fine with those parts, as long as they're installed right.
The biggest glaring problem is putting speakers in the doors. Yes, it will work, but I have NEVER heard good imaging from door speakers. Getting good imaging usually requires kickpods. However, you can always start by putting them in the doors - you will not have wasted any money on parts, because you can reuse everything if you choose to have pods made later.
The one thing I recommend (and I know there are at least two people here who will disagree with me) is to bridge the MRP-240 into the front speakers, and run the rear speakers off the head unit directly. 2x40w really isn't enough for front speakers, but 2x100w is. The 2x25w you will get from the head unit is plenty for the rear speakers, as long as you have them turned down low enough not to distort (i.e. clip the head unit's output amp).
Perhaps should have mentioned - I do like the sound of the Type-R subs. Very warm and smooth, and they punch hard :).
Which car are you putting this in?
If you happen to have a 4th generation F-Body (camaro or firebird), I happen to have a custom enclosure WITH two of the exact subs you specify, laying around! (came out of my 2001 trans am when I sold it). Fits snugly into the well where the t-tops usually go. Fat chance that you'd have that exact car, but I figured it's worth a shot!
I also have an Alpine MRV-1507 (1x1000w) and an MRV-F407 (2x144w or 4x50w) that came out of that same car.
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Leif 
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Posted: July 26, 2004 at 9:06 PM / IP Logged  
Uhh.. Did something go wrong with your post there 94legend? The things you said had sort of been said already :)
///Leif
94legend 
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Posted: July 26, 2004 at 9:13 PM / IP Logged  

I noticed that, I'm just doing what you are doing, rephrasing it, and adding an opinion. If you look at the bottom what i wrote OGL Pro.

Thanks! ^_^

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Posted: July 26, 2004 at 9:25 PM / IP Logged  

ouu 97 pathfinder, , good choice!!, ,be shure to run new speaker wire directly to the speakers if you have the patience.   There is a factory amp in the pathfinders, , you want to bypass it completely.   If you don't want to run new wire, , atleast bypass the amp at the amp.  I can help you with that, , i have a factory service manual that tells me all, , just tell me the factory system you have and i can set you up.

1 more thing, , invest in some sound deadening for that back hatch, ,there is latches inside it that rattle alot, , and annoy the heck outa me.

1 Change i would make with your set up would be, to get the components up front, , and just coaxials in the rear, , its slightly a bit of a waste of money to put components behind you where you really don't want to hear them that much.

Good luck!

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