the12volt.com spacer
the12volt.com spacer
the12volt.com spacer
the12volt.com spacer
icon

Ground Q/A sticky


Post ReplyPost New Topic
< Prev Topic Next Topic >
sethsowash 
Member - Posts: 2
Member spacespace
Joined: January 18, 2006
Posted: January 18, 2006 at 3:54 PM / IP Logged  

I am experiencing interference (engine whine) with a new pinoeer head unit. 

I previously had my stock jeep head unit hooked up to a pair of 2 channel amps with no problems, it is only after I installed the new head unit that im havng trouble. The only thing that i changed was to add RCA splitters to the RCA cables, and change the power/ground to the new head unit.

I tried grounding the HU to the amps ground, didnt work.

Storm910 
Member - Posts: 11
Member spacespace
Joined: August 23, 2002
Location: United States
Posted: January 19, 2006 at 2:26 PM / IP Logged  
okay here's what's going down:
I installed a myron&davis all-in-one video system into an 05 grand cherokee a couple months ago. apparently the vehicle has been in the shop for a lot of electrical problems lately.
The vehicle stays running when the key is removed from the ignition, the brakes are failing and who knows what else.
They told the customer that they have traced the problem down to the fact that I didn't scape off all of the paint when i grounded the video system.
WTF?
i've been installing for a long time and i've never heard of anything like this.
#1 i'm sure the ground is fine, i always ground in the driver's kick away from any other grounds with a star washer
#2 even if it is a poor ground, at the most it would only cause componenets directly related to the video system to have problems.
so what's up guys? am i just an ass-clown that doesn't know what he's doing or is someone trying to pull a fast one on me?
forbidden 
Platinum - Posts: 5,353
Platinum spaceThis member has made a donation to the12volt.com. Click here for more info.spaceThis member has been recognized as an authority in Mobile Audio and Video. Click here for more info.spacespace
Joined: November 01, 2003
Location: Alberta, Canada
Posted: January 19, 2006 at 2:34 PM / IP Logged  

sethsowash, chances are very high that you have a bad head unit. Pioneer heads are notorious for having a piss poor internal ground plane. Try another cd player.

Top Secret, I can tell you but then my wife will kill me.
forbidden 
Platinum - Posts: 5,353
Platinum spaceThis member has made a donation to the12volt.com. Click here for more info.spaceThis member has been recognized as an authority in Mobile Audio and Video. Click here for more info.spacespace
Joined: November 01, 2003
Location: Alberta, Canada
Posted: January 19, 2006 at 2:41 PM / IP Logged  

Storm910, the person telling you this is full of BS, he is blaming something that you have done for a problem that he cannot find. Scraping the paint off for the ground would only affect the aftermarket dvd unit, not anything else. I would be more inclined to start looking at how the power / ignition lines were interfaced first. Ensure that there is no backfeeding on anything. Was there a rs/alarm installed or a keyless entry as well? That is far more likely to cause headaches with the install that present the problems you are mentioning.

Remember that a service technician at a stealership has a flowchart to follow to try and solve issues. This flowchart is also there to maximize the time in the bay and the $ associated to it. The technician if taken to task about 12volt electronics and how the aftermarket industry works is not going to know the end of his nose after about 12 seconds. You as a installer have a definite advantage here.......next time though (and every time), ensure that you have a good ground clean of paint....that would have been one thing he could not have come back at you on.

Top Secret, I can tell you but then my wife will kill me.
electrostatic 
Copper - Posts: 154
Copper spacespace
Joined: January 06, 2006
Location: United States
Posted: January 19, 2006 at 2:51 PM / IP Logged  
hey storm910, thats interesting. so the shop scraped the metal bare and all is well? unbelievable, now you look like the bad guy!
Flatlandfreak 
Copper - Posts: 48
Copper spacespace
Joined: January 04, 2005
Location: United States
Posted: January 29, 2006 at 6:39 PM / IP Logged  

Poormanq45 wrote:
Ok guys. I've read enough of this grounding crap. Taking a wire from whatever you want to ground and attaching it to the frame(Bare metal) is not a real ground.
To completely ground your system, you should hook up a ground wire from the part and connect it to the negative terminal on the battery. This will give you a complete/Proper ground.
It is a common mis-conception that the ground and negative wires are different. This is not true. They are one and the same.
BTW, I am an electrician. The ground and negative on a 110~130V house lead to the same place. It is just because of the Electrical Code that these two wires are kept separate until they reach the breaker/fuse box.

You're an electrician?  And you think there is a "Negative" wire in a home?  Homes use Alternating Current (AC)  There is no negative or positive.  It's a neutral wire, not a negative wire.  And the neutral and ground wires in a home are completely different than the ground wires in a car.  The ground wire is never a means to return current to ground in terminating a device, it's a safety backup, in case the neutral wire is comprimised do to a ground fault, it allows current an alternative route to ground.  That way if the conductor somehow comes in contact with exposed metal, it won't electricute you if you touch it, instead it will take the easiest path and travel through the ground wire.  This also protects equipment in basically the same way.

Anyways, I just wanted to point out that they are completely different scenarios. 

I Like Peanut Butter!
wranglercory 
Copper - Posts: 53
Copper spacespace
Joined: January 27, 2005
Location: United States
Posted: February 08, 2006 at 10:15 AM / IP Logged  
run your power and ground all the way to the battery this way you wount get any ground loops . Its worth a shot if you are having continueing problems
fuscobal 
Member - Posts: 9
Member spacespace
Joined: September 17, 2004
Location: Romania
Posted: February 22, 2006 at 5:45 PM / IP Logged  

I'm also having some noise problems with my Clarion DRZ-9255. Currently, the DRZ is wired to the stock connector in the dash and the DC/DC convertor ( separate box for those who are not familiar with this unit ) is wired to the chassis. I've heard rumours saying that it would be best to wire them both directly to the battery. What do u think ? Thanks !

PS : The noise is constant with the RPMs but increases when i switch the volume control from ---- to -96db ( the volume control goes from -96db to +6db )

Carion DRZ-9255
Audison VRX 4.300 & 1.500
DLS Iridium 6.3
JL-Audio 12W7
mattsthru 
Member - Posts: 25
Member spacespace
Joined: March 20, 2006
Location: United States
Posted: March 29, 2006 at 7:04 PM / IP Logged  
Is it a good idea to ground the HU, a monitor, and a cd changer all together?
On a Mission...
dahot97stang 
Member - Posts: 7
Member spacespace
Joined: June 19, 2003
Location: United States
Posted: April 05, 2006 at 3:49 PM / IP Logged  

I am having a problem with static in my speakers.  I just put in new infinity kappa components in all 4 doors and have them hooked up to an infinity amp.  Then I have a Boston acoustic 10 ran to a dif amp.  Im having alot of background noise in the speakers and wondering what I can do to get rid of this. 

Page of 24

  Printable version Printable version Post ReplyPost New Topic
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot create polls in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum

  •  
Search the12volt.com
Follow the12volt.com Follow the12volt.com on Facebook
Monday, June 30, 2025 • Copyright © 1999-2025 the12volt.com, All Rights Reserved Privacy Policy & Use of Cookies
Disclaimer: *All information on this site ( the12volt.com ) is provided "as is" without any warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, including but not limited to fitness for a particular use. Any user assumes the entire risk as to the accuracy and use of this information. Please verify all wire colors and diagrams before applying any information.

Secured by Sectigo
the12volt.com spacer
the12volt.com spacer
the12volt.com spacer
Support the12volt.com
Top
the12volt.com spacer
the12volt.com spacer