Alpine Type R vs Infinity Perfect

Dang way to go Ravendarat.  You're definately ahead of me on the presentation and awards.  I've seen a guy w/ lightning audio win 3rd in a state competition for spl.  It was the install on that.  No way could those subs win by themselves.  But having good equipment never hurt an installer.  I'm still working on my system for personal enjoyment definately no competitions...yet.

Speaking of installs... I might be getting a JLw7 or w6.  If i port it does it make a difference where I put the port/vent?  If the sub fires directily into the cabin (not the trunk) does the port need to go into there also? or can it go into the trunk?

Someone was talking about the great marketing for JL?  About the product not being that outstanding, just the marketing being great.  Like Bose?  Thats not even a comparison.  Bose gets little respect among audiophiles, JL gets much.  Look at the reviews for JL products, its good stuff (stop hating) but its also relatively expensive.  And JL advertising is not that great, its not very flashy, allot of people who are not into the community are like "JL who?" 

They do not provide a large low-end line of products like, say Rockford who has 3 models of 10" subwoofers under 200, so the best buys can carry the low end and the specialty shops can carry the high end.  They dont revamp the look of the equipment every year or every other year to be stylish, got the same old black cone/white logo on all the subs they make (special edition w6 aside, they got silver logo's). 

JL has several things to overcome before they can break into chain stores like BB and CC, and I doubt production was the biggest piece of it.  They have a network of shops that sell the high end, which could not be sustained if you took away the sales from the w3 and w0.  The mid-low range is where most audio equipment is sold.

I like JL audio and....  I hate fan-boys who ride the dick of any company to hard.  Its ridiculous to say one company beats all others at every price point, no mater what.  Idiots!  I got a universal truth for ya!  Great installation and tuning beats poor I&T any day!  Proven time and again, all day long, over and over, get the f**k outa my way Fan-boy and shut-up your embarrassing yourself! 

It happens on both ends.  Some companies make some very low-end stuff, but that don’t mean the high end stuff is junk to.  Pioneer makes some crap!  But if you shop right, they have some real values in the middle of the product lines.  So to run around saying Pioneer makes junk all day long just makes you look like a fool to those who know better.

Ok, thats enough dont even know where im going anymore.  Respect everyone’s opinion, blah blah blah, just wanted to have my say, throw a few rocks, whatever....

Haha, I'm with boxmaker.

But thanks guys for ALLLL the info.