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m11gt

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Posted: November 01, 2004 at 11:26 AM / IP Logged

I installed a FM 2009 on a 93 300zx and i can not seem to be able to get into programming. the directions mentioned that i have to turn the ign key ON. press the valet switch 5 times with in 5 seconds. the siren will chrip every time the switch is pressed, but that does not happen. I can arm and disarm the car. the alarm works and the siren goes off when the shock sensor is triggered. I have tried several times, but with no hope. i disconnected the battery and reconnected and retried, but still no hope.

the remote start tries to crank the car 3 times, but does not start it. the tachometer wire is connected and secured. the car starts up just fine with the key.

misterjimbo

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Posted: November 01, 2004 at 11:49 AM / IP Logged

If you cannot get it into pragramming mode I assume that means you cannot learn the tach. I am not familiar with the unit you have installed so I am no help there. I could only suggest that you triple check that you connected all the correct wires, as I am sure you have already double checked them. Make sure that you hooked up the ign 1 wire to the appropriate wire on the car if not the unit will not know that the key is on and therefore will not go into programming mode. Sorry I could not be of more help to you

m11gt

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Posted: November 01, 2004 at 12:03 PM / IP Logged

this is my wirring

Alarm Color	Alarm	Wire On Car/ Color	Locaion
green	Lock output (-)500mA	Brown	Driver's Door Harness	relay
red	+12V relay power output 100mA	White	Ignition Switch Harness	relay
blue	Unlock output (-) 500mA	Brown	Also at Lock Timer Driver's Kick Panel	relay

GREEN / WHITE	Brake input (+)	RED / Black	Brake Switch	direct
BLACK/ gray	Tachometer Input	Yellow/Red	ECU	direct
WHITE/ red	Auxiliary 2 output (-)500mA	power windows	windows roll up module
BLACK/ white	Dome Light output (-)500mA	Not needed
yellow	Ignition Input (+)	BLACK/ Red	Ignition Switch Harness
blue / YELLOW	Glow Plug Input (+)	Not needed	diesel cars
blue/white	Passenger Unlock Output (-)500mA	not needed	not needed
blue/orange	Remote start Output (-)500mA	ign#2 relay	not needed
black	Ground	the ground	the ground	direct
red	+12V Battery Input #3	White	Ignition Switch Harness	direct
violet	Door trigger Input (+)	Blue	Anti-Theft Module behind Glove Compartment	direct
green	Door trigger Input (-)	RED / White (-)	Anti-Theft Module behind Glove Compartment	direct
WHITE/ black	Hood/ Trunk Input (-)	ORANGE / Blue (-)	Anti-Theft Module behind Glove Compartment	direct
orange	Armed Output (-)500mA	starter kill 85	whereever	starter kill 85
violet/white	Factory Alarm Disarm Output (-)500mA	Gray/Red (-)	Driver's Kick Panel or Anti-Theft Module	direct
WHITE/ violet	Factory Alarm Arm Output (-)500mA	Blue/Red	Driver's Kick Panel or Anti-Theft Module	direct
brown	Siren Output +	siren red wire	black siren must be grounded	direct
gray	Auxiliary 1 output (-)500mA	no clue	for additional operations
white	Parking Light Output (+/- Built in relay)	GREEN/ Red	Light Switch	direct
BROWN / white	Horn Output (-)500mA	GREEN / WHITE (-)	Steering Column	direct

violet	Starter output	BLACK/ White	Ignition Switch Harness	starter kill 30
yellow	Ignition 1 Output	BLACK/ Red	Ignition Switch Harness	starter kill 86
orange	Accessory Output	Blue	Ignition Switch Harness	direct
brown	Ignition 2 output	BLACK / YELLOW	(cold start Wire)	ign# 2 relay
red	+12V battery Input #1	White	Ignition Switch Harness	direct
red	+12V battery Input#2	White	Ignition Switch Harness	direct

m11gt

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Posted: November 01, 2004 at 12:07 PM / IP Logged

the ign#2 is wired this way

87 - 12 volt constant

85 - Primary start wire

86 - Ground out when running wire ( which is your BLUE/ORANGE on the remote starter )

30 - The 2nd START wire ( BLACK / YELLOW )

87a - NOT USED

misterjimbo

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Posted: November 01, 2004 at 1:07 PM / IP Logged

If your ignition wire is the problem like I stated earlier it would be the ign 1. Because on some cars you do not need the ign 2. Make sure that it is hooked up to the correct wire. Check it with your meter. Make sure that it is hot with the key in all positions except off. Then make sure that it hooked up to the correct wire from the alarm if so your problem lies else where

m11gt

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Posted: November 01, 2004 at 1:58 PM / IP Logged

I am using ign#1 . ign#2 is not going to the alarm directly, it is going to the ign#2 relay. It seems like the car does not crank enough to start up. i think that can be fixed by learning the tach

I have two relays on the ignition wires. the ign#2 relay and the starter kill. the starter kill works well.

what about the programming function? why is it not working? could it be something with the wirring. i am sure everything is connected correctly.

misterjimbo

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Posted: November 01, 2004 at 2:07 PM / IP Logged

If you have hooked it up correctly and all connections are good I do not see a reason that it is not working. You might have a defective unit. Try to get it swapped for another one if you can. Also... Is it the first time you used this particular prduct? If so maybe you are misreading the manual. I am not calling you stupid I have made this mistake in the past. Try letting some one else read the programming part of the manual. Maybe you are skipping a step or something. As I said I am not calling you stupid, sometimes the hardest problems are the ones we create for ourselves

m11gt

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Posted: November 01, 2004 at 2:10 PM / IP Logged

I agree. i am sure that it is a small problem. i read the manual several times over and over again, but i will do it again, just to be positive. things like that happen. I have two units and i actually swapped them already and did not notice any difference. same

Behavior from both units.

m11gt

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Posted: November 02, 2004 at 6:47 AM / IP Logged

I tried again, but still no hope. the way to enter programming is, turn the igntion ON, press the valet switch 5 times. the siren will chrip 5 times. then press the valet switch the number of times needed to enter the system parameter.

whenever i turn the ignition ON and press the valet switch the remote shows the icon "call" and the siren does not chrip.

misterjimbo

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Posted: November 02, 2004 at 6:57 AM / IP Logged

The call function is so that someone in the car can page the driver. Lets say you get out to the gas station and your girl decides she needs some gum she can press the over ride button and page your transmitter. That function is usually one that only works with the key in the off position however it might be different on yours. I do not see why though, if the keys are in the ignition why would you need to call them. Did you check to see if the alarm was seing ignition right at the module? Maybe the wire harness has an open in it. Whenever I have a problem I get my meter out or my test light and check everything out right at the module. I wish I had a better answer for you

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