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DrBriones

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Posted: November 14, 2004 at 8:11 AM / IP Logged

Hi, I am going to install a new PREDATOR 4001 remote car sarter with remote power locks in my 2003 Caravan, but I don't have the van's diagram, if someone has it I would appreciate if you could share it with me.

Also I was told that all the new dodge vehicles that have a gray key they have a chip built into it that the car will detect every time you insert the key to ignite the vehicle, is that true? The owner's manual doesn't say anything about it. The car is a 2003 Dodge Caravan SE.

Thanks in advance 2003 Dodge Caravan remote start -- posted image.

Roberto Briones

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jrilla

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Posted: November 14, 2004 at 8:24 AM / IP Logged

Do yourself a huge favor and buy a bypasskit for the locks and the immobilizer.

Here is what I am talking about: Chrysler Bypass/Interface Combo

Thats still not a cake walk install with it but from the sound of it, it might be impossible for you without it.

J Rilla

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DrBriones

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Posted: November 14, 2004 at 6:32 PM / IP Logged

Thanks J. Rilla I have that in mind now.

Now the only thing missing is the ignition diagram... Anyone?!

Roberto Briones

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DrBriones

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Posted: November 18, 2004 at 5:44 PM / IP Logged

Hi guys, I need the diagram for my van, can u help me? I am installinga new car starter (Predator 4001) and already have the bypass module (gray key)

I would appreciate any info.

Thanks

Roberto Briones

Ottawa, On

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Constant 12 volts	L BLUE	IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS *
Ignition 12 volts	PINK/WHITE	IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS **
Starter	YELLOW (+)	IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Dome Light	YELLOW/WHT (+)	PIN 33 OF 34 PIN CONN. AT B.C.M.
Trunk Pin Switch	VIOLET/ORANGE (-)	PIN 29 OF 34 PIN CONN.AT THE B.C.M.
Parking Lamp	WHT/BRN(RESISTOR SYS.)	AT HEADLIGHT SWITCH (SEE TECH NOTES)
Power Lock	VIOLET/D GREEN	AT B.C.M.LOWER LEFT OF STEERING ***
Power Unlock	SINGLE WIRE SYSTEM	COLUMN IN PIN 21 WHT 34 PIN CONN.

* All Wires Are 20 Gage.L BLUE Fused At 10 Amps. For main Power Connection Connect To BROWN / RED Or WHITE/ RED Fused At 20 Amps At 6Pin Conn. At B.C.M. ** Ignition Wire Controls All Accessories. *** Chassis Ground Thru A 5.3k To Lock And Chassis Ground Thru A 2k Ohm Resistor To Unlock. ( Connector Is Third Up From Bottom Of BCM)

Single Wire Resistor Door Locks

Accessories
Window Up	D\ORG/LT GRN P\ORG/TN D\ORG/D BLU P\ORG/GY @ MAIN SWITCH
Window Down	F/ORG/WHT F/ORG/D GRN R/ORG/L BLU R/ORG/D GRN
Ign Key Warn	VIOLET/BROWN (-)	IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Trunk Release	HATCH RELEASE:VIOLET/	TAN (-) THRU 1.69k RESISTER @ BCM
OEM Horn	D GREEN/ VIOLET (-)	STEERING COLUMN
Headlights	WHT/YEL WHT/BR AT	HEADLAMP SWITCH RESISTANCE VALUE *
OEM Alarm Arm	VIOLET/LT BLUE (-)	PIN 14 AT 34 PIN CONNECTOR,RESISTERS
OEM Alarm Disarm	VIOLET/LT BLUE	ARE THE SAME AS LOCK & UNLOCK BUT **

* 788-809 Ohms ** Apply In The Opposite Direction.

Reversal Rest At Ground Power Window Circuit .

From Installer: Right Slider Open/Close Chassy Ground Thru 3900 Ohm Resistor On Glossy VIOLET / YELLOW at B.C.M Right Of Steering Column. Hood Ajar Switch - VIOLET/LIGHT BLUE (-) Pin 30 White 34 pin Conn. At B.C.M.

Remote Start
Tach Signal	D BLUE/D GREEN	PIN 11 GRAY/BLACK 40 WAY CONN.P.C.M.*
Ignition #2		See Note Below **
Ignition #3
Accessory
Neutral Safety	WHITE/ LT GREEN	PIN 9 OF 34 PIN CONNECTOR AT BCM
Brake Light	WHITE/ TAN (+)	AT SWITCH
Reverse Light	WHITE/ LT GREEN (+)	PIN 9 OF 34 PIN CONNECTOR AT BCM
Rear Window Defrost

* Power Control Module Located Left Front Corner Of Engine Compartment. Ignition Input To Keyless:PINK/WHITE ** VIOLET/BROWN and VIOLET/ORANGE Must See 180 OHM Resistor Between Them During Start Due To Multiplexing.

Immobilizer Bypass

This Vehicle Has A Resistored Park Light System.The WHITE/ BROWN Wire Must Be Cut And A relay And Resister Must Be Used. Pin 85 To Ground Pin 86 To The WHITE Wire Of The Alarm.Pin 87A Switch Side Of WHITE/ BROWN Wire,Pin 30 BCM Side Of WHITE/ BROWN Wire. Pin 87 To One Side Of A 5.8k Ohm Resistor,The Other Side Of The Resistor To Ground. There Is A WHT/DK.BRN In The Rear Harness (Driver Kick) That Is A Pos 12v To The Tag Lights. (From Installer) From Installer: Door Lock/Unlock Wire Located On The Third Connector Up From The Bottom. ***********Door Lock And Bypass Module Available*******

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DrBriones

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Posted: November 18, 2004 at 8:32 PM / IP Logged

Thanks mo12v

Roberto Briones

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DrBriones

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Posted: November 21, 2004 at 8:41 AM / IP Logged

I am installing a remote starter in my 2003 Dodge Caravan. The Installation manual asks about Parking lights being possitive or negative trigger. Now, I am new to installing this type of equipment, but I have installed stereos. How do I know what kind of triggering I have? (I immagine I need the multimeter)

Also the instructions ask about the door locks being possitive or negative. How do I determine it?

Thanks in advance. I know this questions are easy for everybody that is familiar with installing this equipment!

Roberto Briones

Ottawa, On

Canada

Mja1962

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Posted: November 21, 2004 at 8:49 AM / IP Logged

Dodge

Caravan

2002-2003

Remote Starter Wiring Colors and Notes
Function	Vehicle Color	Location
Start:	YELLOW (NOTES BELOW)	IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS**
Ignition #1:	PINK/WHITE	IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS*
Ignition #2:	N/A
Ignition #3:	N/A	****
Accessory:	N/A
Brake Light:	WHITE/ TAN	AT SWITCH ABOVE BRAKE PEDAL
Tach Signal:	PURPLE / ORANGE (AC)	GRAY CONNECTOR BY IGNITION MODULE
Parking Lights:	WHITE/ BROWN (-)	AT HEADLIGHT SWITCH***
Headlights:
OEM Alarm Disarm:	VIOLET/LT. BLUE	AT PLUG AT PCM ON FIREWALL DRIVER'S SIDE******
OEM Alarm Arm:	VIOLET/LT. BLUE	AT PLUG AT PCM ON FIREWALL DRIVER'S SIDE
Diesel Glow Plug:	N/A
Clutch Bypass Wire:	N/A
Notes:	* Many Of These Vehicles Are Equipped With A Transponder (Even If The Key Is Black). Use Universal Alarm Bypass Module Part Numner 2x402 Where X Can Be Any Number. NOTE!!! A Second Start Wire (PURPLE / Brown) Needs a relay installed to provide a ground (-) through a 180 Ohm Resistor during crank in order to remote start the vehicle, See Installation Note #162. The parking lights are negative trigger through a 2.1K ohm resistor. ***All DesignTech remote starters except the 2xx22 have an ignition 3 output - it is the WHITE/ black in the 'control harness'. This wire will be used to control the bypass module, if needed.

Dodge

Caravan

2002-2003

Alarm and Keyless Entry Wiring Colors and Notes
Function	Vehicle Color	Location
Constant +12 Volts:	RED	IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS (MAX # AMPS)
Starter Kill:	YELLOW (NOTES BELOW)	IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS**
Ignition +12 Volts:	PINK/WHITE	IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS*
Dome Lights/Superv:	BLACK/ WHITE (-)	AT 4 PIN PLUG NEAR FUSE PANEL
OEM Horn:	GREEN/ PURPLE (-)	STEERING COLUMN HARNESS
Power Lock:	PURPLE / GREEN	AT PLUG AT PCM ON FIREWALL *****
Power Unlock:	PURPLE / GREEN	AT PLUG AT PCM ON FIREWALL *****
Trunk Release:	VIOLET/TAN	AT PLUG AT PCM ON FIREWALL DRIVER'S SIDE ******
Alarm Input Wire:	BLACK/ WHITE (-)	AT 4 PIN PLUG NEAR FUSE PANEL
Notes:	***for the 2001-02 Caravan Lock is negative trigger through a 5.3k ohm resistor. Unlock is negative trigger through a 2.0k ohm resistor. For the 2003 Caravan Lock is negative trigger through a 2.2k ohm resistor. Unlock is negative trigger through a 390 ohm resistor. The Body Control Module (BCM) is in the driver kick panel near the the parking brake, **See Installation Note #211. A Single Pulse Of Ground Through A 2.2 K-Ohm Resistor Will Open The Liftgate. POWER SLIDING DOORS: Violet/Dk. Blue Wire At Switch. Driver's Side - A Single Pulse Of Ground Through A 2.7 K-Ohm Resistor. Passenger's Side - A Single Pulse Of Ground Through A 1.5 K-Ohm Resistor. **** To disarm the OEM alarm a negative trigger through a 9.20k ohm resistor.

DesignTech International, Inc.

Tel: (703) 866-2000 Fax: (703) 866-2001

7955 Cameron Brown Court

Springfield, Virginia 22153 USA

1-800-DESIGNTECH

(1-800-337-4468)

DesignTech International, Inc.

www.designtech-intl.com

DesignTech disclaims any liability or responsibility arising out of any inaccuracies of this information or use of this

information for installations or otherwise. Please verify all wiring for accuracy prior to making any connections.

Mja1962

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Posted: November 21, 2004 at 8:54 AM / IP Logged

Check this out, too:

http://www.designtech-intl.com/Content/techsupport/documents/section04/note162.pdf

-Michael

jrilla

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Posted: November 21, 2004 at 9:06 AM / IP Logged

Parking lights are positive and the wire is WHITE/ Orange in the loom of wires to the left of the e brake.

Locks are a negative single wire system that requires resistors.

without a security system: Lock is 4.7K ohm and Unlock is 1.8K ohms on the PURPLE / Green wire (pin 21)

With Security system Unlock is b/w 7.5K ohm and 10K ohm, and Lock is b/w 1.8k Ohm and 2.3K ohm on PURPLE / blue wire (pin 14) Unlock requires double pulse. These wires are located in the 3rd plug from the top at the BCM.

Just so you know there is a 2nd starter wire in that vehicle and it is negative through a 180 ohm resistor.

This not an easy vehicle for a first time starter install. So be sure to read up really good and get yourself a good wire diagram. Also you should seriously consider getting a bypass module and a doorlock interface to make the installation much easier. Trust me its worth the extra money to get them.

Look here for what I am talking about:

03 Caravan Products

J Rilla

Owner/Installer

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