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jeffchilcott 
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Posted: November 27, 2004 at 11:53 AM / IP Logged  
Alright Im making progress, when the key is in the ign, and I turn it, but not start, then trigger the remote start it works     but it wont work without the key
2001 buick regal, 791 viper xv, PLDATA to bypass
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D'Ecosse 
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Posted: November 27, 2004 at 12:12 PM / IP Logged  

There are many possible problems that you might have done

Need some more clues:

Does the Ignition come on with the key? Is it just the starter that doesn't crank?

Is the remote start Output wired up before or after the starter cut relay?

My first guess would be that you have a problem with the starter cut relay wiring and that the remote start is wired after the cut relay; so the remote start is bypassing the starter cut & enabling the car to start.

Check out your starter cut wiring.

D'Ecosse 
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Posted: November 27, 2004 at 12:18 PM / IP Logged  

I just noticed that you have another thread going - why did you start a new thread???  only with key remote start -- posted image.

This is obviously related - you say in the other thread that you have not wired up the the starter cut relay????  Did you cut the wire in the harness? You need the relay in place to complete the circuit again - it shouldn't matter if the drive is wired up however as the starter connections should be across the normally closed poles - it only "opens" to disable it it alarm situation.

extreemlylow 
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Posted: November 27, 2004 at 9:13 PM / IP Logged  

   It sounds like the 556u  it wont start becouse of the chip that the key has

badasscarguy7 
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Posted: November 27, 2004 at 10:29 PM / IP Logged  
the 01 regal uses the fuel version of PK3 it requires no programing. use a dei 555g and don't forget to change the jumper to FUEL
jeffchilcott 
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Posted: November 27, 2004 at 11:47 PM / IP Logged  
ok let me better explain things.   when you remote start the car, everything kicks on but the starter. The starter kill is not used. I am using a plxr bypass
You can turn the ign to run, and remote start the car, then take the keys out, and shut down via remote start, and the car will remote start on and off for roughly 10 mins after that.   Then you have to repeat the process with the key.   
The transponder is set to passlock 2 and evrything seams to confirm. I have been told to hook the violet wire to the violet wire at the odb port, but this is a plxr model and the paper work says to hook that to the starter wire.   
The data wire is hooker in the steering colum to the yellow wire next to the black and white wires
The only thing not hooked is the keysense wire, I was told it didnt need to be used, and I also have no info on what wire the keysense wire is or how to find it with a DMM
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rknj01 
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Posted: November 28, 2004 at 2:27 AM / IP Logged  
i would double check your ignition and accessory wires. if one is backwards it wont remote start
jeffchilcott 
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Posted: November 28, 2004 at 10:22 AM / IP Logged  
i dont think people are reading the whole message. It will remote start for a few minutes after I turn the key to run and remote start it, I can shut down and remove the key, and remote start on and off with the keys out for about 10 minutes then nothing
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Posted: November 28, 2004 at 11:18 AM / IP Logged  

Jeff, make sure that the PLXR has these wires hooked up to the car:

  • BROWN -- ground when running wire off the RS unit. For testing, just ground this permanently while remote starting and then lift ground when inserting key and pressing brake.
  • GREEN -- This goes to a light green wire in the ignition harness that will test (-) when the key is inserted into the key cylinder. There will only be 2 light green wires. Test both of them.
  • BLUE -- This wires goes to the YELLOW Passlock II wire
  • VIOLET/WHITE --  NOT USED
  • VIOLET -- Goes to the motor side of the starter wire. In your case you did not use a starter disable relay so it goes to the starter wire off the car ( YELLOW )
  • PINK/WHITE -- NA
  • PINK - - NA
  • ORANGE -- NA
  • RED -- This HAS TO BE hooked up to the PINK wire on the Buick at the ignition harness
  • BLACK -- This goes to chassis ground

Set the PLXR to two blinks at the beginning of the programming. Press the program button for 5 seconds until the light turns solid. Start the Buick and press the button one more time to learn the resistor code and the light will flash momentarily. Turn off car and your done.

Jeff
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jeffchilcott 
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Posted: November 28, 2004 at 11:43 AM / IP Logged  
ok Jeff, I dont have the green wire hooked up, I was told the keysense wire would not be used I guess i will have to hook it up..   And I think we might have the wrong passlock wire even though it was very close to the black and white wire.   He has had a few problems with the key locking in the cylinder..so I am thinking maybe its the wrong yellow wire?
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