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Mja1962

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Posted: December 25, 2004 at 4:19 PM / IP Logged

A friend of mine has a Compustar 2WFMR that he had installed as an alarm system with keyless entry in a 2000 Plymouth Voyager. When he presses the II button, the car cranks, runs for about 2 seconds, then stalls. It makes two additional attempts to start, each time doing the same thing. He was told by the installer that he didn't pay for the remote start function, and that it would need "something else" in order to enable that feature.

What surprises me is that the car cranks at all. Why would someone go to the trouble of hooking up the starter wires if the customer didn't request remote starting? (He wants it now).

But my main question is: what is needed to enable remote starting on this car? Does it need tach programming? Also, I have only the user manual; can anyone provide me with the installation manual?

Thanks for any assistance.

-MIchael

silvercivicsir

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Posted: December 25, 2004 at 4:50 PM / IP Logged

well the ign would have to be hooked up since you need it to program the remotes.

I Am thinking, you still need to hook up the accessory wire, White on the compustar, to the blk Orange and your van might be a 01, which needs the 2nd starter to be hooked up using a resistor and negative trigger. is it the new style dodge caravan ?

silvercivicsir

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Posted: December 25, 2004 at 4:52 PM / IP Logged

error should be pink /white for the ign, and the 2nd starter would be PURPLE / brown

Mja1962

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Posted: December 25, 2004 at 9:09 PM / IP Logged

I have not yet looked at any of the wiring. So far, I just observed that the car cranks and starts, but stalls after a couple of seconds. Looks to me like a tach related symptom, but I can't say for sure. The fact that it starts would seem to indicate that the ignition wiring is done. Any other ideas? The van is a 2000 Voyager, not sure how to tell if it's a new style.

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Posted: December 25, 2004 at 10:42 PM / IP Logged

First off, the installer had to hook up the primary ignition wire and starter disable relay if the security system was to be used because the programming sequence for the Compustar requires these wires to be hooked up. Next, the ACC wire for the 2000 Voyager doesn't need to be hooked up in order for the heater/AV and blower fan to operate. There's no second starter wire, the 2nd IGN wire needs to be hooked up to the BLUE wire off the Compustar's CN1 plug and also needs the GREEN wire from the CN2 plug to be attached to the PURPLE wire off the 2nd operating relay and all that you would need to do is to find the tach wire on the van and attach it to the YELLOW/BLACK wire off the Compustar unit. Next you need to program the tach signal to the Compustar and then you should have it working.

Jeff

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Mja1962

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Posted: December 26, 2004 at 12:44 PM / IP Logged

Velocity Motors wrote:

...the 2nd IGN wire needs to be hooked up to the BLUE wire off the Compustar's CN1 plug and also needs the GREEN wire from the CN2 plug to be attached to the PURPLE wire off the 2nd operating relay...

Am I understanding you correctly - are these connections made for the alarm functions; that is, can I assume that they are already made?

Velocity Motors wrote:

...all that you would need to do is to find the tach wire on the van and attach it to the YELLOW/BLACK wire off the Compustar unit. Next you need to program the tach signal to the Compustar and then you should have it working.

Thank you for helping to clear that up. Can you point me in the direction of an installation manual for the programming information?

-Michael

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I wouldn't assume anything with the installer's. Just take a look at the installation that they did and unwrap all the electrical tape that they have to expose the CN1 harness. You will then see if they hooked up the other wires necessary for the van to start. For programming the tach all you have to do is let the van idle to the lowest RPM and then press the tach program button on the side of the unit. The lights will flash once to confirm a proper tach signal and 3 times for a bad tach signal.

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Mja1962

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Thank you for the information, Jeff. I hope to be able to check it out this week. I'll let you know what I find. Anyway, any suggestions on how to get my hands on a copy of the install manual?

Michael

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Posted: December 26, 2004 at 6:33 PM / IP Logged

http://www.compustar.org

Look under the SUPPORT tab and you will find the manual there.

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Mja1962

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Posted: December 27, 2004 at 11:30 AM / IP Logged

Velocity Motors wrote:

http://www.compustar.org

Look under the SUPPORT tab and you will find the manual there.

Only the user manuals are available online. Has anybody got an installation/programming manual they care to fax or e-mail?

Also, does the symptom I described sound like it could be the result of a missing transponder bypass? That would make the most sense to me since my friend was told he'd have to pay extra to enable the remote start feature. I have only done a couple dozen remote start installs in my time, but never saw a car actually run when not bypassed. I have seen them a) Not crank at all or b) Crank, but not start. Then again, I have never installed on this particular model car.

Michael

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