Eclipse Ti vs. Brahma

Im pretty much down to those 2 subs for my choice on my next set up.  What im looking for is some comparison advise from people that have owned them, or both.  Naturally either one i get will be powered with too much power to be shure a clean signal is sent, and i can get both at approx the same price.  Which would you choose? Im also open to other sugestions, not JL plz.2003 Chevy Avalanche,Eclipse CD7000,Morel Elate 5,Adire Extremis,Alpine PDX-4.150, 15" TC-3000, 2 Alpine PDX-1.1000, 470Amp HO Alt.

Alpine Guy wrote: Naturally either one i get will be powered with too much power to be shure a clean signal is sent

How much power will be available?  And you are not considering a 1 ohm amp load, right?  And how many subs total, one?

Build the box so that it performs well in the worst case scenario and, in return, it will reward you at all times.

IM thinking of getting a JBL BPX2200 (2200 wrms)  to power the subs, most likely just 1 sub, ,but i'll leave headroom if i change my mind in the future.  Definately no more than 2 subs.  I was thinking if i can hit the 140's with a type-r, ,i can definately hit the 140's with high sq from a high end sub.2003 Chevy Avalanche,Eclipse CD7000,Morel Elate 5,Adire Extremis,Alpine PDX-4.150, 15" TC-3000, 2 Alpine PDX-1.1000, 470Amp HO Alt.

I was just thinking of the different coil impedances of the two subs you're looking at, the Brahma is 2 ohm DVC, and the Eclipse is 4 ohm DVC.  Doing some thinking of how one kind can be used, and you'll still be able to add another.Build the box so that it performs well in the worst case scenario and, in return, it will reward you at all times.

Since required box size is very small for the Brahma's I'd go for 2 15"s.  The 15"s are actually relatively efficient at 87+db.  Get 2 and you'll hit ~90db+ with ONE WATT of power.  This is a FAR better base for SPL than a single 12" Brahma, which has a 84db efficiency rating. 

To illustrate to you how much easier the 2 15"s are to drive check out this example: 

Both sealed boxes ~ .9qtc.

1000watts to the 12" yields around 114db before cabin gain. 1000watts to the 2 15"s (500 each) yields around 120db before cabin gain.

The point is, that 6db difference will stay with you no matter what! and is HARD to make up.  You'd need 4500 watts to the 12" to catch up to 1000w on the 15"s!

New Project: 2003 Pathfinder

the hard part about 15's is getting them to mold nicely into the back side's of my Pathfinder without sticking out too much.  I need to keep the center of the back of the truck open for carying stuff around, ,and sleeping.  Anything is possible tho haha.  Im asumeing the size spec's are on Adire's web site,  i'll check out tomorrow to see if i can manage stuffing them in there.2003 Chevy Avalanche,Eclipse CD7000,Morel Elate 5,Adire Extremis,Alpine PDX-4.150, 15" TC-3000, 2 Alpine PDX-1.1000, 470Amp HO Alt.

Well, even a single 15" Brahma is as efficient as 2 12" Brahmas. Something to think about. :-) Ouch. Hmm, space IS an issue for you. The 15" actually requires much more space - probably out of the question. New Project: 2003 Pathfinder

Eclipse TIi's for me I would put a 15pro up agianst anything Brahma!!Eclipse "Approaching Perfection"

ya, but a 15 pro costs about the same as 5 Brahma's2003 Chevy Avalanche,Eclipse CD7000,Morel Elate 5,Adire Extremis,Alpine PDX-4.150, 15" TC-3000, 2 Alpine PDX-1.1000, 470Amp HO Alt.