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Posted: November 06, 2002 at 12:59 AM / IP Logged

Try replacing the current relays in the system and see if this remedies your problem.

Jeff

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Posted: November 06, 2002 at 7:27 AM / IP Logged

Hey, if all else fails....I was going to replace the 4 satellite relays and the starter kill relay, too. If the problem still persists, could it be the female harness that I have attached to the relays? (among other problems)

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Posted: November 06, 2002 at 7:44 AM / IP Logged

Hey cpgoose....... don't start blaming the female gender for any short comings just yet problem, or unit itself? - Page 2 -- posted image.

. Make sure that your wires leading from the car into the door ( if any ) all have the insulation intact. If for any reason they are grounding out, there will be your problem.

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Posted: November 06, 2002 at 7:46 AM / IP Logged

HA! problem, or unit itself? - Page 2 -- posted image.

Yea, but the ignition cuts out when I "jiggle" wires on the relay satellite. The doors don't mess up anymore, now that I've turned off the ignition controlled door locks. Although it does occassionally (the domelight) come on because

it thinks

I opened a door. Hmmm....maybe some of the wires that I dragged into the doors (for power door locks) have become stripped, and are tripping the system. Just can't figure out the jiggle.

EDIT: Agh, now that I think about it, when I was driving down the road, and the system was tripped, which turned on the domelight and stuff.....if it was the wires for the power door locks that I installed, wouldn't the doors have tried to lock/unlock, even though i turned off the ign controlled locks?

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Posted: November 06, 2002 at 2:42 PM / IP Logged

Jeff, should i rule out the insulation theory? Does the cold air affect the wire connections and relays if not enough electrical tape or insullation is used? Is it a feasable cause? I'l try the jiggle approach that cpgoose used to pinpoint. the relay replacement seems tricky for me. agagin thank you for the suggestions. I'll let you know the outcome or ask another question if something new comes up. take it easy!

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Posted: November 06, 2002 at 2:53 PM / IP Logged

boymata, usually cold and heat doesn't affect the function of a relay, rather moisture & humidity. Try wiggling the wires and if it responds, then you know there's a loose connection somewhere.

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Posted: November 06, 2002 at 6:59 PM / IP Logged

hey ludeboi...have you made any progress?

Well, I just looked at mine tonight some more...to no avail. I replaced 3 of the 4 relays in the satellite with new ones. It didn't act up. I jiggled it like jello, and nothing. So I thought I finally figured it out, went to install everything "nicely", and it messed up. ARg. Even with the 3 new relays. So, it could have been one of the other 2 relays left (the starter kill or the 4th relay of the satellite).

I also unplugged the valet switch to see if it would still act up, and it did.

One thing that I'm kind of catching is that I tested for continuity between the pink ignition wire at the relay and the car's ignition wire at the fuse box. When the car's ign was on, there was only a brief "beep" of continuity. When I turned off the car, there was continuity. Is this how it should act?

maybe I should just buy a new relay satellite...arg!

Sell me a pager system:-)

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Posted: November 06, 2002 at 8:06 PM / IP Logged

I would say that this is a defective unit if all that you have done and it still does the same thing. The IGNITION wire is suppose to loose ALL power after you turn the key to OFF. If there is still residual current then one of the relays is not turning itself off. I had this once before and I checked all the output pins and one had 6 volts on it and eventually drained the battery. Simple fix was to grab an ignition power source instead of a constant power cource seeing that it was for a circuit that only needed power when the ignition system was engaged.

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Posted: November 08, 2002 at 5:59 AM / IP Logged

Hmmm.....so I could either have a defective unit or a defective satellite relay, right?

I checked the ignition wires in the satellite relay when the car was off. I think the pink wire dropped to 0, but the pink/white wire had like 6.7 mV. (Is that worth anything?)

What I really wanted to check on is if the two ignition wires of the relay satellite should show continuity with the car ign wires they're hooked into when the car is off and on. Like I said in a previous post the pink/white shows continuity when on or off, but the pink only showed continuity (beeeeep) when the car was off. Should it show when it's on, too?

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Posted: November 08, 2002 at 7:02 AM / IP Logged

if the pink wire was connected to the proper wire than it should show voltage in the run,and start position and continuity to ground when the key is off.

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