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I would like to know if useing the open flame on a butane iron is a normal practice for soldering on auto alarm wireing. is this ok?
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If you mean using the just the flame from the iron, the iron without a tip, then HELL NO THIS ISN'T SAFE INSIDE A VEHICLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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crabman2336 wrote:
I would like to know if useing the open flame on a butane iron is a normal practice for soldering on auto alarm wireing. is this ok?
If you mean cordless, yes. However if you mean working with an open flame in the car then no. Stick with an electric solder gun. Cost you $15 and it will get the job done without causing any injury to yourself or the things around you. Spend a bit on more if you are planning to use it on a daily basis.       
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I like to use a butane torch that has a very small flame.
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not really a good idea, you want the wire to basically "absorb" the solder and for it to do this you sould heat the wire first and then apply the solder.  For the best connection you sould apply solder to the heated gun, then apply the gun to the wire, then apply more solder to the wire. It works best with a solder gun.
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Wire flux is your best friend when soldering.  It makes for better flow and final product.

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using a cordless butane is best as long as you solder your connections your ok, you won't have to worry about your work coming back and an upset customer too. OOh and do not use t-taps.
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If you plan on doing more than one or two, definitely spend the money and get a decent cordless butane iron.  You can buy one for about $50 and not have to worry about cords and the heat up time on some electrics.  There isn't an open flame and you have instant heat control by dialing the temperature up and down.  I have used mine for about two years and have had zero problems with it.  I always hated having to deal with a cord every time I had to get under a dash to work.  Some cars it seems like you barely have enough room for your hands, much less an iron with a cord sticking out of it.  I will never use a corded iron again.  It is definitely the way to go.  Next to my DMM, it is one of my most important tools. 
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i seem to always have problems soldering. so you let the iron sit on the wires and let them get hot. about how long dose it take a $15 electric iron to get the wires to the right temp?  when i try it it never seems to get hot enough?
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