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95Pony 
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Ok, I reviewed this forum looking for info on painting. Yes, I read "Painting fiberglass for beginners and I found it quite dissapointing. Now ultimately , I would like to achieve my look with good ol' spray paint. In the painting fiberglass for beginners its very contradictery, one spot says its just as good and another says it looks like crap. Well, which is it? Ive seen some spray paint jobs and they definetly didnt look like crap. Ive used bondo body filler and sanded the crap out of it using 220 then 300 then 600. I stoppede at 600. Should i go up to 1500 and ultimately up to 2000? Also, anyone know which brands are good. Rustoleom or? Wal-Mart guy wasnt much help. Thanks for your help This is what ive done so far. Doesnt look very good...

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if the piece is currently in paint, you need to sand from 800, 1000, 1200 and 1500, then apply a clear coat. Dont go past 1500 as the clear wont stick to well.

Rule of thumb.

600 grit wet - ready for primer - then 600 and 800grit wet - ready for paint - tack cloth between coats and apply 2-3 coats.- then wet sand with 800 and 1500 - ready for clear - apply 3-4 coats of medium wet clears coats. - wet sand with 800 and 1500 and then 2000 grit papers. then buff with a fine rubbing compound and polish with a super resin polish. then stand back admire your work, if it looks crap stop trying and take it to a body shop!

hope this helps you out!

95Pony 
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Yeah that did help, but ive got another questions. I tried wet sanding and wasnt too happy. Everyone says wet sand your paint and then clear coat it. When i wet sand the paint it looks faded and like crap. Why would I want to clear over the faded crappy look after wet sanding. Thanks for the tips though and any others would be great!!!
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Try rubbing compound on either a buffer or with some elbow grease.
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95Pony wrote:
Yeah that did help, but ive got another questions. I tried wet sanding and wasnt too happy. Everyone says wet sand your paint and then clear coat it. When i wet sand the paint it looks faded and like crap. Why would I want to clear over the faded crappy look after wet sanding. Thanks for the tips though and any others would be great!!!

Do not worry about what the base coat looks like after you wet sand in prep for clear coat.  The clear coat will give you the gloss back.

Looks like your peice has some oranage peel to it.  Thats a phenomana and has to do with temp, humidity and application rate and thickness and drying time.  Some of which are out of your control.  I have layed on a laquer primer only to have it dry as it hit the work peice.  What a mess, a bunch of little balls of paint!

Do not try and apply thick coats in an attempt to smooth it out.  Put enough coats of paint on to sand a coat off during wet sanding or as it is termed in the body world, color sanding. Final wipe, tack and then clear coat.  Follow same guidelines with clear coat as color coat.

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95Pony 
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Hey thanks again for the tips.  So is it true it takes like 3 or 4 coats of spray paint to equal one coat of automotive? Maybe my problem is I laid too thick of layers. Just lays really thin coats right? Do i  have to wait a long time to apply the next coat? The can says to wait a few minutes (like 10) and any brands that are good that people could reccomend would be great. And also, Ive heard Rage Gold is far superior to regular bondo brand. Is that true? Is it worth going to the trouble to get it instead? Thanks again everyone for helping a newbie (Hey I only just turned 17!)
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Rage gold is nice, so is bondo. It is all a matter of personal preference and what you are doing with it, some like Rage, some like Bondo, some dont want to touch either of them. The best thing to get is the spray bondo from Select Products, I have never heard a bad thing about it, everyone I have talked to loves it. As far as paint goes, unless you want to paint it again in a year-couple years, go with a quality paint, go to Sherwin-Williams Auto, they sale good stuff, as well keep your eyes open for a SEM paint and PPG. That crap wal-mart sales aint gonna cut it. Spend the extra couple dollars and get good stuff! Hope I was some help!
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Some body supply shops can custom mix the color and then put it in a spray can for you, cost like 22 bucks a can, not cheap but way better than the walmart stuff. I also like BPS (Best Paint Sold)I get from Tractor Supply Store (TSC). It is like 5 bucks a can but goes on real nice and last.
As for filler, I have been using half time by USC. Great stuff! I went to pick up some Rage Gold today the supplier hit me with a free gallon of USC filler and hardner to try. I bit, what a mistake, it is total crap compared to Half Time or Rage Gold or Rage Extreme. Going to go and get what I went for in the first place! The projects I am working are are too small for power tools so hand sanding everything, I want the best filler I can get! My vote, Half Time or Rage.
By the way, your first coat of paint should be thin. You need to get something down for the other coats to stick to. Follow what ever the can says and weather makes a BIG difference, I mean BIG difference.
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I just used Half Time for the first time this weekend. I have to say that is some goog stuff. I may even like it better than my beloved Rage. Not sure yet. I am sure that I hate Bondo. They make ok FG resin but the body filler is crap.
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