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Posted: May 12, 2005 at 11:43 AM / IP Logged  
Amendment - worth a crap TODAY.
I too, have owned domestics in the past. I had a '72 Olds 88, and when it finally died, the odo had been rolled TWICE by me, and I think the previous owner rolled it once. That's 300K PLUS miles...! I had an '86 Civic Si, that I traded in on my '01 (actually, I retired it to the State of California, for $1500 as a "gross polluter" Electrical Load Detector Killed My system - Page 3 -- posted image.) with 380K on the odo, and all I ever did was change filters, oil, and the O2 sensor once - OH, AND DROVE THE FRIGGIN' WHEELS OFF OF IT!!! My '01 Civic now has 91K, and still gets over 40MPG. I made my 48th payment of 60 this month.
I really didn't mean to ruffle any feathers with my previous post, I just had to say what was on my mind...
Also, lets get back on topic... Sorry! My bad...
It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."
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Posted: May 12, 2005 at 11:48 AM / IP Logged  

I have to diagree with all of the import fanatics. American cars are built tougher and are just a durrable as any import car. I have a 94 Lumina Euro that currently has 165,000 on the OD. The car is still 100% solid and runs great. I also have had many other cars that have wel out lived the average lifespan, All Chevy's.

My brother in lad has a 1978 Chevy truck that had almost 400,000 on the OD before he had to finally pull the motor.

It's all in how well that you take care of them. Do the regular maintence. and the car should give you many years.

And alot of the the American cars are coming straight from the factory with over 100 amp ALTS. S**T, the Chevy Trailbalzer has a 150 amp ALT right out of the factory. My 94 has at least a 105Amp in it. Yes, it's still not enough for my system but, its better than a 70 amp.

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Posted: May 12, 2005 at 6:47 PM / IP Logged  
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My 1997 Pontiac Grand Prix has 110,891 miles on the odometer.  I have replaced the stock atlernator once with a new one, and haven't had ANY trouble since,  well no trouble that I didn't cause.  0 guage to the dist block in the trunk, 0 guage ground, 4 guages from the dist blocks to the amps.  At night with the lights on I get 13.50 volts, 13.05 with the AC on, but I broke the AC so I never use it anyway.  This has been the most durable car I have owned to date, I am quite hard on cars some of my past cars are:

1991 Nissan Sentra for a year, I had a 1994 dodge caravan for 6 months, and a 1987 ck1500 gmc truck for a year.

Thats all I have.

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My point to my post was that he had to lie to get the warranty to have the alt replaced. Sorry, that just rubs me the wrong way. Domestic or import, that's just plain wrong. You screw it up (intentional or not) - you pay for it. Don't make it worse for those of us that are actually honest and confess to our mistakes. Take some responsibility for your actions, eh?

My 2002 GMC Sonoma has a stock 105 amp alternator. Domestic and stock. Wanna buy yet? Electrical Load Detector Killed My system - Page 3 -- posted image. Most domestic vehicles these days DO come with alts at/near 100 amps or more...

Haemphyst, I will agree with you on the union portion of your post. Couldn't have said it better myself.

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Posted: May 13, 2005 at 11:09 AM / IP Logged  
Paradigm wrote:

My point to my post was that he had to lie to get the warranty to have the alt replaced. Sorry, that just rubs me the wrong way. Domestic or import, that's just plain wrong. You screw it up (intentional or not) - you pay for it. Don't make it worse for those of us that are actually honest and confess to our mistakes. Take some responsibility for your actions, eh?

I did not have to Lie, my service rep advised me it would be in everyones best intrest to loose the HO alt for the Warranty repair

Im sorry that rubs you the wrong way, but I did what I felt was necessary at the time, anyway logistically it doesnt make sense to keep a $200 dollar item and then shell have shell out $1000 + for repair

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Posted: May 13, 2005 at 11:36 AM / IP Logged  
just to let you guys know, ,the vehicles comming with 100+ amp alts are still usesless for adding stereo's, just because the alts are more powerful it dosn't mean theres more power available.  The real reason the have bigger alts now is because the vehicles have greater power consumptions so they need a bigger alt to keep up, therefor still leaveing you with little to play with in the end.
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5150azn 
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Posted: May 13, 2005 at 11:40 AM / IP Logged  
Thats why it's a good idea to make friends with your service advisor if you service your car at the dealership regularly. I've seen all kinds of crazy stuff get covered by warranty.
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Posted: May 13, 2005 at 3:42 PM / IP Logged  
skoldspuppy wrote:
Paradigm wrote:

My point to my post was that he had to lie to get the warranty to have the alt replaced. Sorry, that just rubs me the wrong way. Domestic or import, that's just plain wrong. You screw it up (intentional or not) - you pay for it. Don't make it worse for those of us that are actually honest and confess to our mistakes. Take some responsibility for your actions, eh?

I did not have to Lie, my service rep advised me it would be in everyones best intrest to loose the HO alt for the Warranty repair

Im sorry that rubs you the wrong way, but I did what I felt was necessary at the time, anyway logistically it doesnt make sense to keep a $200 dollar item and then shell have shell out $1000 + for repair

However you wanna spin it, it's still wrong. I guess if the rep told you that, then I would probably do the same thing in your shoes...

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Posted: May 13, 2005 at 4:18 PM / IP Logged  
Actually Honda dealership's are pretty good about thier warranties, Basicaly the way I saw it was that he could have the car covered under warranty as long as he had a stock alt put back in. Also replacing the alt isn't a big deal, it was the ECU that is the big deal. The dealership probably didn't care about putting it under warranty as long as they wouldn't have to do it again. Also IMO the dealership was full of shhh for the cause of the ecu blowing regarding the ELD. There are too many variables to discount the warranty dispute either way.
Also racer, do you notice the trend there? You are talking about OLDER domestic cars whereas most people are referring to NEWER import cars. Apples to Oranges. I know, you also mentioned the Trailblazer, that is laughable seeing as many of them go back as lemons that I have personally seen. I honestly don't know of any other vehicle I have seen been turned in more often under the lemon law then the Trailblazer.
Now stay on topic and quit bashing imports/domestics.
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