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methinfinity

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Posted: June 22, 2005 at 7:34 AM / IP Logged

sup jeff

just fit one of those jvc h/u today into hyundai tiburon. nice little screen. didnt sound too bad with factory speaker set up. the gloss black did look a bit odd against the silver dash. customer was happy though. what did you need to know about that deck anyway?

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Posted: June 22, 2005 at 11:51 AM / IP Logged

Yo DYohn:

I just took a set of Classic Series 525's out of my Corolla last week.

"CDT comps with the silk domes tend to have a pretty neutral high end and punchy midbass." <--- thats a pretty much dead on assessment of them tonally.. even with the tweeter set to "+3dB" it still was quite soft... on the lowest setting I'd even call it limp.. and I'm usually bothered by brighter speakers. I actually found that if I used a JL VR series x-over with them they would take on some of the JL's much more bright etched sound..

The midbass was much more powerful than the JL Audio VR-series componets that I replaced with them... still they couldn't handle the power I have for them ... I found them giving before I was happy with the output...

Perhaps with haemphyst's EQX the midbasses would be worth another shot... my VR midbasses came back from JL and I swapped that set back in ... thats another post though..

I'm *very* curious to hear your opinion of these speakers.. my ultimate assessment was rather positive.. I *loved* them tonally, but the detail and power-handling left me a little cold. Not a set I could keep. If I had less than 150 watts for them .. say a nice 50 watts a channel... I think they'd been perfect.

I'll tell ya, they left me really wanting to hear a set of the HD series..

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Poormanq45

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Posted: June 23, 2005 at 2:42 PM / IP Logged

dwarren wrote:

If you really want to go the right way, look in to a high quality three way system

For the best sound quality ALWAYS try to have as few crossover points as possible.

I would recommend piecing together your own drivers. For the tweeter use a pro audio compression driver with a "small" horn crossing it over at ~6khz~8khz. Then find a nice mid-range that can play from ~120hz through 10khz with a relatively flat response. Crossover the mid range over just above the point that the horn response begins to fall off. Use a ~12dB slope for the mid and a 18dB slope when crossing over the horn. Then look into a descent quality sub. That will total to a three way system. Dwarren's suggestion totaled to a 4-way system.

Remember, crossovers are BAD

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Posted: June 23, 2005 at 3:59 PM / IP Logged

Crossovers are BAD? How do you figure, what are you getting at here?

What's wrong with what you labeled as a 4 way system?

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Posted: June 23, 2005 at 5:39 PM / IP Logged

I completely disagree with the notion that crossovers are somehow "bad" or need to be minimized.

Crossovers are one of the most important components in any sound system. A properly designed and constructed crossover is a thing of beauty, a work of art, and will determine how a speaker system sounds. Show me a multiple element loudspeaker system without a crossover somewhere in the signal chain and I'll show you a loudspeaker that will sound like crap. A properly designed crossover can make marginal speakers sound very good indeed. And yes, a poorly designed or contructed crossover, or one that is misused, or one being used with the wrong speakers, can really really sound bad. But there is nothing inherently bad about crossovers, they are 100% necessary in any audio application. Even so-called "full range" systems use crossovers (or at least notch filters, which are basically the same things.)

A properly designed and constructed three or four way speaker system can be the best sound you have ever heard. Even five and six way, depending on the applicaiton. My car uses a 4-way system.

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Posted: June 23, 2005 at 5:40 PM / IP Logged

And oh by the way, the CDT speakers apparently arrived today so I'll be able to check them out over the weekend. Upgrade on new internals. Suggestions? - Page 2 -- posted image.

Upgrade on new internals. Suggestions? - Page 2 -- posted image.

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Posted: June 23, 2005 at 6:09 PM / IP Logged

sounds good. I was flipping through the parts express catalog and thought wow I would love to buy some of the morel home audio stuff. anyone know if morel is sold online anywhere. there are no dealers in the area

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Posted: June 23, 2005 at 8:03 PM / IP Logged

So now that you have an idea on internals, what are you going to do about externals?

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Always check info with a digital multimeter.

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Posted: June 23, 2005 at 8:07 PM / IP Logged

Poormanq45 wrote:

What is with you and inspiring arguements
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Certified Security Specialist

Always check info with a digital multimeter.

I promise to be good.

Tell Darwin I sent you.

I've been sick lately, sorry I won't be on much.

auex

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Posted: June 23, 2005 at 8:10 PM / IP Logged

dwarren wrote:

The real question is why so many damn question marks?

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Certified Security Specialist

Always check info with a digital multimeter.

I promise to be good.

Tell Darwin I sent you.

I've been sick lately, sorry I won't be on much.

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