Starter Relay for Civic 2002 lx

Hi everyone,

Thanks for reading, I am installing a Black Widow (BW1650) alarm/starter/keyless entry  combo.  I got the keyless entry and alarm to work, but I'm having problems with the starter, I hooked up a relay like this:

Cut the starter wire in half, then plug the key side of the wire into pin 30, jump a wire from 30 to 85, plug the engine side of the starter wire into 87a along with the alarm unit's starter output wire, then plug the alarm unit's armed output wire into 86.

I got the above instructions from off a how-to article.

I did this and it scared the crap out of me cause I couldn't start my car! But luckily, it was just a blown ingition fuse.

The instructions from the alarm says to do this:

orange armed output to 86, keyside starter wire to 87a, engine side starter wire and alarm units starter wire to 30, then alarm ingition output to 85.

I don't know which is the right one, and I don't want to mess anything up again.

Also, it said to plug the ingition input and output wire to the main ingition wire.  I was told to cut the ignition wire in half, then wire the input to the key side, and output to the engine side.  What do I do? 

Actually, I'll just list all the wires that I'm having problems with from the alarm, maybe someone can help me.  Oh and don't worry about the transponder part, I can handle that.

1. Orange wire(thick wire) - Main ignition output

2. Violet Wire(thick wire) - Starter output

the rest are thin wires

3. yellow wire - +12v ignitoin input

4. violet wire - positive door trigger (+)

5. green wire - negative door trigger (-)

6. orange wire - armed output (-) (for starter kill)

7.white wire - parking light output (+/-)

I know this is a big bundle of questions, but if you could help me with a little section, that would be fine, thanks!

Sorry, I got the model number wrong, I'm Installing a:

Black Widow BW6150

Do this one : orange armed output to 86, keyside starter wire to 87a, engine side starter wire and alarm units starter wire to 30, then alarm ingition output to 85.

Also, it said to plug the ingition input and output wire to the main ingition wire.  I was told to cut the ignition wire in half, then wire the input to the key side, and output to the engine side.  What do I do? 

• Do exactly as it says.... cut the primary ignition wire in half and attach the appropriate wires to the input and output wires from the alarm.

1. Orange wire(thick wire) - Main ignition output BLACK / YELLOW

2. Violet Wire(thick wire) - Starter output BLACK/ white

the rest are thin wires

3. yellow wire - +12v ignitoin input BLACK / YELLOW

4. violet wire - positive door trigger (+) NOT USED

5. green wire - negative door trigger (-) The drivers door trigger is green, front passenger door trigger is lt. GREEN/ red, and the rear door trigger is GREEN / WHITE.

6. orange wire - armed output (-) (for starter kill)

7.white wire - parking light output (+/-) PARKING LIGHTS (+) RED / black  found at the back of the fusebox 

What kind of clips should I use?  Butt connectors, quick splicers, t clips?  Also, what does hopping a wire from 30 to 85 do?  Thanks a lot for your help!  I appreciate it!

The hardest thing about all this is the room that is presented for me to work with.  How am I supposed to solder everything without ruining everything?  What kind of solder should I use?

David!

Can you please clarify your relay description Jon?  I'm having a hard time trying to read it, thanks!

David!

One more question, where is the tachometer in my car, and how do I locate a place to run my wires throught the fire wall?  Thanks, you guys are alot of help!

David!