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Bypass lockout on AVIC-N2, AVIC-D1


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dreaddi 
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Posted: January 15, 2006 at 4:49 AM / IP Logged  

tritop wrote:
I normally don't repond to forums but in this case I feel obligated.  I recently bought a new N2 on the internet new for $1,110.00.  I had it installed and made the modification as outlined in the instructions.  It work like a champ.  I have had no problems what so ever.  Additionally, I had a switch put in that allows the system to work as designed in case I need to shut it off.  This really works.

What switch did you installed?

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o0odvs1o0o 
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There seems to be a few knuckleheads that JUST cant do this... I am having my installer do the solder trick to my N2 tomorrow and will post what happens... I think the reason behind some of you not being able to do this is you forget ONE crucial step... grounding the break!! There are just too many people on here that say it works and was so simple to do... again, I will post the results tomorrow night (Tues. 1-17-2006) or Wednesday 1-18-2006!!
L8r! Bypass lockout on AVIC-N2, AVIC-D1 - Page 22 -- posted image.
p.s. the thought of Pioneer or any company for that matter having a team of people out there to sabotage your units so you will have to buy a new one is so dumb, I cant believe any of you would actually believe this! Do you think a huge company like this needs to rely on you buying a new unit due to messing up your warranty? get real!
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Regarding the AVIC-N2 bypass!  I have an electronic background on both theory and hands-on.  I read in one comment that there would be a connector on the pins if pioneer wanted to use R-197.  Not true if they wanted to bridge two processors or circuits they would just put in a jumper bar.  I did the bypass on the back of the unit and everything is opened up.  If you do not have soldering skills though I recommend that you get a professional to do it for you.  You need a low powered solder iron and a steady hand.

dreaddi 
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There are alot of people who saids it works for them and many others have made many more connection than soldering the two R-197 connections. There are some who have done it and still hvaing problems with it for they opened another forum talking about the gps connection. So who knows what revision of the N2 board in their system that can be also a problem. It could be they are grounding to the wrong ground(radio as i was told). Never put down another for what he can't do just help for i bet you may not be able to trial a murder case or do an accountants job so what maybe simple to you maybe a task to them.
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o0odvs1o0o 
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Well, as promised, I have returned to let you all know the results of my AVIC-N2 install... I went today to have my installer do the 'solder trick' to the AVIC-N2, and it took him about 2 minutes to do it! Just peeled back the silver tape and then put a bit of solder between the 2 points, oila!! works like a charm! just the way it SHOULD! It should be shipped this way with a disclaimer and option to change it... anyway, I can now watch movies and perform all nav functions while driving! My camera, voice module, remote and every other function works PERFECT, exactly how it used to and it even works better now! I have a 2004 Mercedes CLK 500 AMG Bypass lockout on AVIC-N2, AVIC-D1 - Page 22 -- posted image., so if it works with my car, it will work on yours!! Do be warned, the only 'problem' is that it will void your Pioneer warranty... big whoop! Id rather have these features and worry about the warranty later!! Bypass lockout on AVIC-N2, AVIC-D1 - Page 22 -- posted image. I do recommend having a professional do the install and especially this mod, unless you really know what you are doing... It was like pulling teeth just getting a person to do the install in my car, noone is able to do it on this particular car due to the fiber optic connections it has, so I had to go through my Mercedes rep who knew of one person in the area that works on these cars all the time, he was great and did a fantastic job with everything!! It is worth getting someone who knows what they are doing, as the install gets done very cleanly... my camera is located BEHIND my license plate and all you see is a small hole! not the cam... nice!... remember we are talking about a $1,000+ piece of equipment, and you wouldnt really want to have a $1,000 paper weight would you? Bypass lockout on AVIC-N2, AVIC-D1 - Page 22 -- posted image. ***Those people who say it does not work, either 1: Are lying or 2: dont know what the hell they are doing, tried it and screwed their unit up!*** BOTTOM LINE- THE SOLDER MOD WORKS 100% PEFFECT!!!
dreaddi 
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Posted: January 17, 2006 at 5:35 PM / IP Logged  

o0odvs1o0o wrote:
Well, as promised, I have returned to let you all know the results of my AVIC-N2 install... I went today to have my installer do the 'solder trick' to the AVIC-N2, and it took him about 2 minutes to do it! Just peeled back the silver tape and then put a bit of solder between the 2 points, oila!! works like a charm! just the way it SHOULD! It should be shipped this way with a disclaimer and option to change it... anyway, I can now watch movies and perform all nav functions while driving! My camera, voice module, remote and every other function works PERFECT, exactly how it used to and it even works better now! I have a 2004 Mercedes CLK 500 AMG Bypass lockout on AVIC-N2, AVIC-D1 - Page 22 -- posted image., so if it works with my car, it will work on yours!! Do be warned, the only 'problem' is that it will void your Pioneer warranty... big whoop! Id rather have these features and worry about the warranty later!! Bypass lockout on AVIC-N2, AVIC-D1 - Page 22 -- posted image. I do recommend having a professional do the install and especially this mod, unless you really know what you are doing... It was like pulling teeth just getting a person to do the install in my car, noone is able to do it on this particular car due to the fiber optic connections it has, so I had to go through my Mercedes rep who knew of one person in the area that works on these cars all the time, he was great and did a fantastic job with everything!! It is worth getting someone who knows what they are doing, as the install gets done very cleanly... my camera is located BEHIND my license plate and all you see is a small hole! not the cam... nice!... remember we are talking about a $1,000+ piece of equipment, and you wouldnt really want to have a $1,000 paper weight would you? Bypass lockout on AVIC-N2, AVIC-D1 - Page 22 -- posted image. ***Those people who say it does not work, either 1: Are lying or 2: dont know what the hell they are doing, tried it and screwed their unit up!*** BOTTOM LINE- THE SOLDER MOD WORKS 100% PEFFECT!!!

Hey you should post a pic of the car and a close shoot of the tag showing the camera. I love that car and is one of the next things on my list to buy. My Agusta is next but thanks for the info and feedback as promised....Bypass lockout on AVIC-N2, AVIC-D1 - Page 22 -- posted image.

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ram41569 
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Posted: January 17, 2006 at 10:26 PM / IP Logged  
I just did the bypass on my 1 week old N2.I used a Radio Shack Circuit Tracing pen and it worked like a charm.
dreaddi 
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Ok....last thing from me and i will see you all in another topic. Did you all use the same ground as you use with the radio or another ground?
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ram41569 
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Posted: January 18, 2006 at 4:31 AM / IP Logged  
Guy's say use a different ground but I used the same ground without a problem.
n2tahoe 
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I attempted to bypass trick on the avic n2 I soldered the two leads under the silver sticker and grounded the brake wire and it DID NOT WORK I was told that it may be because my unit was manufactured in 2005. I believe that it may have worked on the 2004 avic n2 units and pioneer made a change in 2005 and now the solder trick no longer works.

What did work to bypass on the N2. Well here it is.

I installed a toggle switch to shut off the speed sensor wire and a 2nd toggle on the brake wire.

The only way to bypass the N2 is shut off the speed sensor switch, then turn on the brake switch and disconnect the GPS antenna from the hideaway.  My hideaway is mounted under the console with easy access by removing the cup holder. I removed the small plastic clip from the grey tip of the GPS antenna plug, this allows me to plug and unplug the antenna much easier. This allows me to watch dvd while driving, without using the rear camera input.

Also shutting off the speed sens switch while the GPS antenna is plugged in allows me to use all of the Navigation features while moving, such as simply hitting the return home feature, and address lookup.

Does anyone know if it would be possible to install a toggle switch on the GPS antenna? If this is possible please let me know.

I do not want to cut the wire as it may interupt the impedance. How would I add a switch to the antenna, I went to radio shack and the sales rep scratched his head and couldn't help. The closest i got to a solution was at Fryes where I found a Garmin GPS antenna connector that will convert the avic antenna conection to a RCA cable. I would have costed about 40 bucks for the parts to even attempt to install a switch on the GPS antenna without cutting the wire.

n2tahoe
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