MTX vs JL vs Alumapro

Just out of curiosity,  why do you guys hate JL so much?  Maybe it's a matter of perspective, but as somewhat of an insider in the industry I have a lot of respect for JL.  They have an incredible engineering team that has produced some great technilogical advances as can be seen in the W7.  Most of their competitors claim technological superiority, but really are just one more flavor of the same old stuff.

And as for the post above, anybody can see that MTX's comparisons are purely  marketing.  If JL chose that type of approach, they could easily spin it to where their subs were the superior choice.  Most of the "points" MTX makes have negatives as well that they just so conveniently forget to add.  An example of this is their claim  that the rubber surround is superior.  However foam provides better rigidity for a given weight, costs less, and lasts longer.  As for excursion, let's compare a 13W7 to a 15" 9500 and see which wins.  

Steven Kephart

Adire Audio

I tend to like JL Audio mainly because they produce loud, clear subs, and thats typically what i look for. i've had 2 JL Audio Subs so far and i wouldnt trade them for anything. the way i look at it is that the bass that they produce in relation to the wattage they require is a good balance. Given i have heard a few different MTX subs throughout my car audio experience, i feel i can compare them sufficiently. MTX tends to have more booming bass versus the JL with clear bass output. it always depends on what you're looking for in a sub, and obviously how much you are willing to pay.

Is higher prices a reason to hate a company?  After all, you don't have to buy their subs.  And as far as I've noticed, everybody does the same thing as those JL owners you describe above.  Everyone thinks that they have the best sub.  I know I do.

And knowing a little bit about speaker engineering, I feel that the W7 is one of the better subs on the market.  Very few subs can come close to it's high output/low distortion performance because of the innovative technologies used in it.  TC Sounds makes a good sub that is almost impossible to break.  We have measured several of them.  However I would personally take a W7 over any of their subs because I feel it is better engineered.

Sliced bread is still the best though.  Especially toasted with some melted butter and cinamon and sugar sprinkled on top.

Steven Kephart

Adire Audio

Like I said, the TC subs are built like tanks and hard to break.  When I was talking about better engineered, I was talking about performance.  Everything about the W7 is well engineered to perform it's best.  There are many little things that TC Sounds likes to do on their subs which I disagree with and actually hurt performance rather than help IMO.

Steven Kephart

Adire Audio

the bottom line is personaly oppionin. wether of not ou think it sounds good. the sound should determine a persons opinion about a speaker, not price.  although i factor that into my evaluation of JL product, it's not the main reason i don't like their product. i don't like sony subs either, not because they are so cheap i lose sales to them and their red flashy color just begs idiots to put them in sweet rides like this. ( which made me sick to do) they sound bad.

a companys marketing or price points, their salesmans slicker than snot on a glass doorknob ptch shouldn't mean shhh. just how the speaker sounds. thats whats improtant, because at the end of the day, when your car backs out of the install bay, the speaker is the only think that leaves with you.