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salaki

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Posted: October 21, 2005 at 10:43 AM / IP Logged

Is this a dual stage sensor?

How come I only have one adjustment knob?

Please help me correct my assumption:

Green will be connnected to blue which then connects to blue multiplex input zone 2 into my 791XV.

Shouldn't this be single stage sensor?

Or maybe his sensor is a dual stage but blue/green connected together to multiplex input where this sensor has the ability to provide 0.8 sec pulse for warn and more than 1 sec pulse for trigger which then sensored by the multiplex input..

I ask all this because all of my installs have been straight forward where warn and trigger is separated by blue and green on Aladdin alarm (Gopme)that I just connect straight into the alarm brain.

Thanks again.

David

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Posted: October 21, 2005 at 11:16 AM / IP Logged

I think that shock sensor (and its lack of installation instructions) are lame.

Did you know you can put the cable (wires) on....backwords. COME ON....backwords.....

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Posted: October 21, 2005 at 12:15 PM / IP Logged

it's a poor musician who blames his instrument.....

i've installed dozens and dozens of units with this sensor and had no problems....it's just a matter of paying attention to what you are doing.....

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salaki

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Posted: October 21, 2005 at 12:41 PM / IP Logged

I don't blame on the sensor.

I will try to use it to its full capability.

But I just want to confirm whether this sensor is dual or not.

This is how I have it connected now:

I cut the green and connect it to green cause I was under the impression that green is somehow warn and blue is trigger based on the wiring instruction on the back of the sensor.

I did this and I could only get a warn instead of full trigger. I adjust it around then all of the sudden it only triggers full alarm instead of warn.

Then I adjust it again then I can only get to warn even I bang on the window hard.

How is this sensor is suppoed to be installed?

Separate the green and blue or connect them together to "blue wire"?

Can I reasonably expect this sensor to be a dual stage even I connect them together? (meaning light bump means warn where strong bump = full trigger?)

Please discuss with me I want to learn how things work instead of just asking which wires to where...

Thanks,

David

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Posted: October 21, 2005 at 12:44 PM / IP Logged

yes it is a dual zone sensor...... impacts of less than .8 trigger warn away and longer/harder than .8 trigger full alarm.... this sensor has been around for years and is very reliable.....

Kevin Gerry

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salaki

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Posted: October 21, 2005 at 1:03 PM / IP Logged

kgerry wrote:

yes it is a dual zone sensor...... impacts of less than .8 trigger warn away and longer/harder than .8 trigger full alarm.... this sensor has been around for years and is very reliable.....

Would you be able to explain me why it combines the green and blue together to connect to blue?

Not trying to argue but I want to learn different ways of connecting sensors.

I'm also getting the proximity sensors that it has both blue and green where green (warn) and blue is trigeer.

So shoul I connect these two blue/green from proximity sensors together then connect to green input?

Please help.

Thanks again,

David

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Posted: October 21, 2005 at 2:23 PM / IP Logged

Some alarm brains take the green wire (warn away) and blue (trigger) as discrete (separate) inputs. Other alarm brains allow you to multiplex them together to a single line and the brain determines by the timing of the sensor pulse (short or long), whether it will issue a warn away or alarm trigger command.

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salaki

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Posted: October 21, 2005 at 2:42 PM / IP Logged

Jim,

Thanks for the reply.

Let me try this again tonight so I can fully understand how it works..

I think I get it now...at least for the shock sensor one.

Would you clarify on how I should install the proximity sensor?

Being a novice in this 12 volts install, I would think to follow the way the the shock sensor is being install:

Proximity sensor:

Combine green and blue then connect to green (since it's left un connected into the main brain)

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Thanks again,

David

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Posted: October 21, 2005 at 9:37 PM / IP Logged

Yay time for me to butt in. If you want to hook up a prox sensor to the alarm you can hook both the green and blue wires to that extra green wire from the shock sensor harness just make sure you use diodes on each of the wires coming from the prox sensor. diode 1 striped side goes to green wire of prox sensor. diode 2 striped side goes to blue wire of prox sensor. the other sides of both diodes go to the green wire from the shock sensor. Hope this helps.

salaki wrote:

Jim,

Thanks for the reply.

Let me try this again tonight so I can fully understand how it works..

I think I get it now...at least for the shock sensor one.

Would you clarify on how I should install the proximity sensor?

Being a novice in this 12 volts install, I would think to follow the way the the shock sensor is being install:

Proximity sensor:

Combine green and blue then connect to green (since it's left un connected into the main brain)

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Thanks again,

David

Cause I'm So white and nerdy...

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salaki

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Posted: October 22, 2005 at 1:10 AM / IP Logged

Seems to work fine w/o the diode when I tested it.

Can you give me the diode spec?

I don't want to buy the wrong one @ RadioShack.

Thanks,

David

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