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Valet 561t into 1997 Grand Prix GTP


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Posted: November 06, 2005 at 11:35 AM / IP Logged  
Ok, so now we know that the alarm is set off by ignition sense. If you test the wires going into the alarm which I think would be in the keyless module with the 32 pins keep turning the key off and then to on. Test a wire turn it to on to see if you can locate a wire that tells the module when it senses the ignition being turned on. Go through each wire in that plug and hopefully you will find one. I've had the issue in the past on a subaru where wehn I added a remote start to factory keyless...the remote was disabled Once the Ignition was turned on. I snipped the ignition sense wire and was able to use the remote when running. Of course in your case what we want to happen is when the remote start unit turns on the ignition for starting that the alarm will never see that and hopefully not trigger yet remain armed.
By the way...you never did say whether your remote still functioned when the vehicle was running.
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Ok I was looking at the manual and I just thought of a new idea. I'm not sure if it will work but in theory it seems right. Instead of sending the disarm wire a pulse that doesn't seem to be timing right. Let's try connecting the BLUE STATUS OUTPUT from the 4 pin satellite harness to the disarm wire. The status wire comes on and stays on during the entire run cycle and hopefully a split second before the Ignition turns on. I'm hoping this will disarm the alarm and keep it disarmed through the whole run-time. Give this idea a try and let me know what the results are.
http://directechs.com/guides/manuals/ig/valet/N561T_07-05.pdf
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Found something else in the manual. The programming step 20 FACTORY ALARM DISARM PULSES—SINGLE, DOUBLE: Selectable for a single or double-pulse for the vehicle’s factory alarm disarm input requirements.
Using the existing set-up with the factory disarm wire output of the alarm, this may help resolve the timing issue if it sends out a second pulse before start. This may or may not work so you'll have to experiment. You will need to go into programming to change the setting though.
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OK-I tried using the blue status light and it does give a constant ground when activated but it didn't work, the alarm still went off.  The remote does still work while the car is running.  Also, that downloaded manual is different than mine, mine only gives 14 different programming modes, not 21, and when I try to get to the 20th mode, it will not let me.  I do have the Valet 561t but they had to have changed the manual sometime and either mine or that one is not accurate.  I know that I have the right wires and everyhting but the pulse is just too soon. I can manually pulse it and time it right and the alarm never goes off and works fine, but the would kind of kill the whole reason of getting a RS. Any more thoughts? Keep them coming because I'll try anything.

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I didn't mean blue status light, I meant blue status wire.
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Yeah did you try looking for the Ignition sense wire I discussed before at the alarm module?
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Posted: November 07, 2005 at 6:41 AM / IP Logged  
I take it the wire would be 0V until I put the ignition into the run position , then it would show 12V? Just want to make sure I'm looking for the right wire. 
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OK, I found it and cut it. The car started with no alarm but it dies after about 3 seconds.
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The only other thing I can think of is maybe trying the diesel start delay. I think it has to be 15 or 30 seconds after it gets the remote start command signal. Check the programming features. But reconnect the cut igition sense wire and see if the disarm command timing issue is resolved using it like that. It will suck to have to always wait the extra 15-30 seconds. But hey if it works, waiting a few extra seconds isnt that bad.
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Your vehicle isn't listed in these instructions but you could always try it. This would disable the factory security though. http://directechs.com/techtips/pdfs/resources/security/directed_techtips/1051.pdf
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