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smik 
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Posted: December 19, 2002 at 10:20 AM / IP Logged  

the second Ingition wire (provided your car had one) was needed for the starter.  The reason I ask is because my car has a 2nd wire, but the remote starter is already working with only the 1st ignition wire attached - it just starts "a little rough" (some sputtering).  With a key start, everything light up just fine (no sputtering).

Any thoughts?

TIA, smik

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Posted: December 19, 2002 at 10:23 AM / IP Logged  
What type of vehicle?
smik 
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skerr 
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Posted: December 19, 2002 at 11:40 AM / IP Logged  

Yes hook it up, Do you have the tach wire hooked up?

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smik 
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Yup, tach wire is on (through the firewall at the ignition coil).  I'm gonna hook it up, but why would the absence of the second ignition wire cause this?
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The second ignition wire is a necessary hook up on most vehicles because it controls the transmission module and other electrical devices in the car. If the 2nd ignition is not powered up, you may get error lights on the dash.
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smik 
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I only have one "Ignition" output coming from my RS.  Can I just jumper it to the 2nd IGN wire, or should I attach it by use of a relay.  If I have to use a relay here's my attempt at how it might be wired up (I'm really not sure but I thought I'd try after reading the "Basics - Relays" area):

30 - 12v constant

87 - to IGN 2 wire (at harness)

87a - ?? (ground)?

85 - one side of something with 12v at start or crank?

85 - other side of something with 12v at start or crank?

TIA,

smik

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Posted: December 31, 2002 at 8:46 AM / IP Logged  

Wire a relay like this:

  • 85 & 87 : 12 volts Constant FUSED ( 20 amps )
  • 86 : To ground out when running wire on RS unit
  • 30 to ignition # 2 on vehicle
  • 87a : NOT USED
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smik 
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Thanks Jeff. OK, I think I understand now although I'm a little confused about 86. As far as I'm aware (from my remote starter documentation), the IGN wire coming FROM my RS brain supplies 12v+ when the starter is initialized with the remote. Would this change the pinouts as follows:

  • 85: IGN wire from RS (12v + when intialized by remote)
  • 86: Ground
  • 30: to IGN #2 on vehicle
  • 87: 12v constant FUSED @ 20 AMPS
  • 87a not used

Thanks, smik

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Thanks the12volt - I was using Notepad (from the start) - I think it had something to do with my firewall
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