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2005 Pontiac Aztec Remote Start?


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dadz 
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I installed a remote start on a 2005 pontiac aztec. It worked well when I tested no service lights on. The customer called me about a week after install and told me that the service engine soon light comes on only when remote started, it shuts off as soon as remote start is disengaged ie brake pedal is pushed. I used a dei 457gw to bypass passkey III, I also hooked up 2nd ignition. Is there something I should try to not have the light come on or is not going to cause any problems. I appreciate any info on this.
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This is how I wire:

Constant 12 voltsORANGEIGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Ignition 12 voltsPINKIGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
StarterYELLOWIGNITION SWITCH HARNESS

Ignition #2DK GREENIGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Ignition #3ORANGEIGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
AccessoryBROWNIGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
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dadz 
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I use wire magic, the diagram calls for the orange as the accesory and that instead of hooking to the constant orange to use the heavy gauge red wires coming out of the center console. I'll try hooking up the accesory wire to the brown. Will it damage the car if it is not hooked up for awhile this guy is hard to get ahold of. Also does the 3rd ignition have to be hooked up?
Thanx
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dadz wrote:
I use wire magic, the diagram calls for the orange as the accesory and that instead of hooking to the constant orange to use the heavy gauge red wires coming out of the center console. I'll try hooking up the accesory wire to the brown. Will it damage the car if it is not hooked up for awhile this guy is hard to get ahold of. Also does the 3rd ignition have to be hooked up?
Thanx

I would want to fix the problem A.S.A.P.

If not, he should not use the R / S.
If you are sure there is no bad or loose connections:
Some Installers believe the ORANGE as a Accessory & some as a 3rd Ignition.
I wire ORANGE as 3rd Ignition....... ( No Check Engine Lights ).............
BROWN is Accessory

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dadz 
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Cool I called him this morning.
thanx for the info
brcidd 
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If you are adding extra relays to your "Ground out when running" wire- be sure to diode isolate- I made that mistake on a 2004 Aztek- it would drain the battery in 12 hrs- I had run the extra ignition relay to get rid of the SES lite like you have- I was using a GM U7 for the bypass and needed the third ignition wire to get rid of the SES lite.......just a heads up......
Brcidd - Engineer That Does Remote Starter Installs on the side.
mike swanson 
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Constant 12 volts ORANGE IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
DO NOT USE THIS WIRE!!!!!!!!!!
USE THE RE POWER WIRE IN THE CENTER CONSOLE
mike swanson 
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I would want to fix the problem A.S.A.P.
If not, he should not use the R / S.
If you are sure there is no bad or loose connections:
Some Installers believe the ORANGE as a Accessory & some as a 3rd Ignition.
I wire ORANGE as 3rd Ignition....... ( No Check Engine Lights ).............
BROWN is Accessory
test the wire. if it goes out while cranking it is an Accessory. If it stays on while you crank the starter it is an IGN.
mike swanson 
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Wire/Function Vehicle Colour Location/Description Polarity
PASSIVE ANTI-THEFT YES TRANSPONDER SEE NOTES
12 VOLTS Orange (small gauge)* Ignition switch harness + USE RED POWER WIRE IN CENTER CONSOLE
IGNITION Pink Ignition switch harness +
IGNITION 2 Dk.green Ignition switch harness +
ACCESSORY Orange Ignition switch harness +
STARTER Yellow Ignition switch harness +
TACH SIGNAL White At coil on top left of engine AC
FUEL INJECTOR Opposite from Pink At any injector on engine AC
LOCK RED / black Pin-B4 on C2 connector at BCM** -
UNLOCK RED / black Pin-B4 on C2 connector at BCM** -
DOORPIN SEE NOTES***   
TRUNK PIN RED / black Pin-A8 on C2 connector at BCM**** -
TRUNK RELEASE WHITE/ black Pin-B1 on C0 connector at BCM**** -
FACTORY ARM SEE NOTES*****   
FACTORY DISARM Violet Pin-A4 on C2 connector at BCM***** -
BRAKESWITCH White At switch above brake pedal +
PARKLIGHTS Brown Pin-B3 on C1 connector at BCM**** +
HAND BRAKE ORANGE / black Pin-A2 on C2 connector at BCM**** -
HORN Black At steering column -
DRIVER WINDOW UP Brown At switch in driver's door REV POL
DRIVER WINDOW DOWN Dk.blue At switch in driver's door REV POL
PASSENGER WINDOW UP Lt.blue In driver's kickpanel REV POL
PASSENGER WINDOW DOWN Tan In driver's kickpanel REV POL
LEFT REAR WINDOW UP Dk.green In driver's kickpanel REV POL
LEFT REAR WINDOW DOWN Purple In driver's kickpanel REV POL
RIGHT REAR WINDOW UP Lt.green In driver's kickpanel REV POL
RIGHT REAR WINDOW DOWN Purple In driver's kickpanel REV POL
HEADLIGHTS Yellow At light switch harness -
REVERSE LIGHTS Lt.green At fuseblock in center console -
DIMMER Gray At any illuminated switch in dash -
VSS WIRE Dk.green Pin-B8 on C0 connector at BCM**** 4000ppm
KEY SENSE Lt.green Pin-A1 on C0 connector at BCM**** -
DATABUS INTERFACE Pin-2(top row from left) Diagnostic plug below dash DATA
Vehicle notes
PLEASE NOTE: This vehicle is equipped with TRANSPONDER chips in the ignition keys. This system must be bypassed for Remote Starter installation. A keyless bypass module may be available, contact your distributor to find out. If one of these modules is not available to you, see the appropriate security diagram for bypass instructions.
* This wire should not be used to power a remote starter. You can run a line to the battery, or you can find power at the relays in the center console by removing the plastic side panel on the driver's side of the console. See the exploded view.
** This is a 1-wire doorlock system. A 470-ohm resistor to lock and a direct ground to unlock. This wire is located at the BCM in the center console. See the DOORLOCK diagram for exact wiring instructions.
*** Driver's door is DK.BLUE (pin-A7 on Pink plug), DK.BLUE/WHITE (pin-A3 on Pink plug) for other 3 doors. See the BCM diagram for exact pin locations.
**** The Body Control Module is locate behind the center console. Remove the plastic panel on the driver's side of the console to access. See the BCM diagram for exact pin locations.
***** System can be armed by pulsing the doorpin at the same time as lock. If your car starter has an arm wire, it can be connected directly to the doorpin. If you have to use the lock wire, be sure to use diodes to isolate the doorpin and lock relay or the doors will lock every time the door is opened. See the doorlock diagrams for exact wiring details.
roadshoptuner 
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....I know that in a lot of newer GM's you needt to diode isolate the parklight wire at the BCM to avoid setting off the service engine soon wile remote started. I ran into this problem a week ago in a 2000 monte carlo, and then 3 days after the same thing occured in a 03 impala. Just split the parklight wire in half and place a diode inline with band side facing the BCM. Connect youre parklight wire before the diode running twoards the bcm (closer to the factory relays)...and watever you do do NOT use + parklights on these vehcihles....use the - trigger lt blue wire pin A6 on the grey plug at the BCM
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