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honomichl 
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Posted: March 03, 2006 at 1:54 PM / IP Logged  

I was just on the mtx website. They were comparing the L7 to the 8500 series. Everybody know that L7 will beat that 8500 series sub any day.They comparing voice size. The L7 was quite a bit smaller funny thing is it can beat the 8500 series.In loudness. Then they were also comparing the 9500 series sub to the W7. Can u guys believe that. I was to hear your input on what u guys think. Here the http://www.mtx.com/caraudio/headtohead/w7.cfm that is the one with the 9500 v.s. the W7

http://www.mtx.com/caraudio/headtohead/kickerHeadToHead.PDF L7 v.s. 8500 series

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Posted: March 03, 2006 at 2:01 PM / IP Logged  
It's the number's game. In comparison with the number's the MTX sub is a better SPL subwoofer, but just like anything else, the equipment is only part of the equation. If you know what your doing and can use the information to your advantage, your going to be able to make the MTX subwoofer perform better than the JL sub. That doesn't mean that it will sound better or go lower, but it will perform as it's suppose to...... as an SPL subwoofer.
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Posted: March 03, 2006 at 2:12 PM / IP Logged  
Plus I will add that one should always take so-called head-to-head comparisons that are done by equipment manufacturers with a grain of salt.  Look for tests done by third parties.
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Posted: March 03, 2006 at 3:22 PM / IP Logged  
It is all how gullible the person is at the same time. It is very easy for a manufacturer to do the Jedi Mind Trick to you the customer. If say you think that MTX is the shiznit, you are going to believe what they read, the if JL or Rockford or anyone put up similar info, you are going to read into it and come back with the same question. All equipment can do a superior job, it is all in how it is matched together and used for the task at hand. It took me abou 8 years before I could see the Jedi Mind Trick coming from the reps that were dealing with me every day, today, I am immune to it and can make far better choices for my customers based upon that.
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Posted: March 03, 2006 at 3:42 PM / IP Logged  
Very smart you are young Skywalker.
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Ravendarat 
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For what its worth I have done several installs using both the L7 and the 8500 and on SPL levels its a close race. MTX leads you to believe that its a run a way but its not. Now with that said the MTX cars I did WERE louder than the kicker cars but once again you have to take that with a grain of salt because the cars were not the same. They showed up to the same competitions so the mic was the same but the vehicles, amps, decks etc were all different so you cant hang your hat on the results. I can say that the MTX 8500, while being SPL subs, still sounded better than the kicker L7's did. As for the 9500 to the W7, the 9500 while rated to handle less power, seems to have a real world handling higher than the JL, but for sound quality, even a die hard mtx guy will probally tell you that the W7 is a better SQ sub. As for SPL though Ill go with the 9500 over the W7
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Posted: March 03, 2006 at 6:34 PM / IP Logged  
Heeheehee...... Jedi Mind Trick. Good one Rob.
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honomichl 
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Posted: March 03, 2006 at 9:14 PM / IP Logged  

I think it is amusing on how they compare there equipment to others.

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Ravendarat 
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Posted: March 03, 2006 at 10:40 PM / IP Logged  
I didnt even notice your sig line to start with. No wonder you were so offended that MTX said their 8500 would stand ahead of the L7
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Posted: March 04, 2006 at 2:58 PM / IP Logged  
Subs are like anything else in the world, everybody wants u to think they have the best, but in reality its all about what u want, personally I have 2 12'' L7s in my car and I think they are awesome, but a friend of mine has 2 12'' 9500s in his and he think his is better. Point being it doesn't matter what the companys think just what YOU think.
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