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01 Honda Prelude, Valet 526t


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2. When you programmed the tachometer, did the unit verify that it learned it?
Yup: started engine, held program button down within 5 seconds, status light came on solid.
when you program the tach raqise the idle during the learn process to 1200 rpms. this will allow the remote starter to crank to a higher rpm before releasing the start relay.
I'll go out and give that a try when I have minute...
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raise the idle during the learn process to 1200 rpms
Dang, didn't seem to work. Tried learning the tach at 1200, 1500, even 2000 RPM. Exact same behavior - cranks several turns but doesn't start, gives up after three tries. With the key, engine starts within first few cranks.
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What ignition wires did you power up ? Also, sounds like a Immobilizer problem to me. Do you have the BLACK headed key in the ignition when you try to remote start the car ?
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Jeff,
Thanks -
What ignition wires did you power up ?
I tied into the yellow and black 12-ga. ignition wire, in the harness at the steering column. I cut away an inch of the insulation a few inches behind the wheel, soldered the pink heavy-gauge ignition input in the harness that goes to the relay, taped everything up tight.
Also, sounds like a Immobilizer problem to me. Do you have the BLACK headed key in the ignition when you try to remote start the car ?
Definitely - tested the remote start with the black, Honda transponder key in the ignition; r.s. doesn't work - turn the same key and the car starts right up.
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Here's something else for you to try.  Start the car with the key.  Then after it's running, make sure your foot is off the brake and the hood is closed, then hit the button to remote start the car.  The parking lights should flash and the doors unlock ( if they're hooked up anyway ).   After that turn the key to the off position.  If the engine shuts down then somethings wrong with the wiring you hooked up to the igintion harness double check those.
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Thanks, everyone, for your ideas.

[I]Here's something else for you to try...[/I]

Tried your suggestion - engine stopped after I turned off the key, so something wrong with my wiring.  I'll double check and post an eact diagram in a while.

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Hi, still hoping someone can help me figure this out.
I retested with my multimeter. The BLACK / YELLOW 12-ga. wire in the ignition harness tests ~12V both in Run and Start. This is the wire to which I soldered the pink "Ignition Input" wire from the Valet heavy-gauge relay unit harness. The solder connection is good, the Valet side of the wire is hot in start and run.
When I arm the system and try the remote start, the starter circuit works (engine cranks), but I show no voltage in the ignition line.
So, the Valet, for some reason, is not powering up the ignition circuit when it runs the starter.
I'm studying the install and owner guides and the circuit charts, looking for some reason why this might be. Any ideas? I'd rather assume it's installer error, than a defective Valet unit.
(by the way, Mods, thanks for merging the topics, I wasn't sure whether or not I should have started a new one)
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Check the fuses on the 2 red wires.  And do you have both of them hooked up? If not they both need to be hooked up to a source of constant 12v.  Are you sure that the ribbon harness that connects the relay pack to the brain is plugged all the way in at each end.  Just some simple things to check first.
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Check the fuses on the 2 red wires. And do you have both of them hooked up?
Errrmmm.... BOTH red wires, you say?
01 Honda Prelude, Valet 526t - Page 2 -- posted image.
Yup, that was it! Thank you!
I thought the second red power wire was for when you have to hook up a second ignition circuit or something, and wasn't needed for a simpler configuration. I'm glad I didn't cut it off, and instead folded and ziptied it out of the way until everything was tested.
Thanks, cntrylvr! Thanks, dj and Jeff and everyone else!
Out to finish soldering.
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