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2002 Dodge Grand Caravan, remote start


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bry21317 
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Posted: December 10, 2006 at 9:03 AM / IP Logged  

I am about to start installing a Remote Start in this vehicle.   I have a Bulldog Security Deluxe 500 Remote Start Unit and a Bypasskit Model CHDL 1B-PK to tie into the ODB II Port and also it includes the Bypass built into this.

What I am having a problem figuring out are the following on the CHDL 1B-PK

1) Parking Light In + - Do I need this if I am hooking the wire from the Remote Start Directly to the wire for the Parking lights? Or is this easier to use?

2) Ground When Armed In (-) - When arming, door detection takes aprox 45 seconds- giving the BCM time to go to Sleep mode.

I can't find any wire to tie into this from my RS system.  I have a few Ground when Disarmed, but have not found one to ground when armed.  Any help would be greatly apreciated.

3) Starter In (+)- I am not sure what this wire should be connected to.  I don't have anything that refers to this as an input for this wire.

4) Also now for the Dumb question, I need to know what side of the car is the Left and which is the Right.  This way I can connect my Sliding doors correctly the first tiime.  I need to know how they say, left power sliding door, what would this mean, to me it would be from sitting in the car so this would be the passenger to me.  But I don't know how they come up with which is which.

5) Also on this Module, I have the Unlock wire and lock wire connected, where or do I need to hook up the wire from my Remote Start wire that states : Lt. GREEN/ Black wire H7/8 Step 2 Door Unlock/ factory Disarm/ Shock Sensor Bypass. I am not sure what this would hook up to, as I have the lock and unlock already covered to the bypasskit with the relay outputs from the Remote starter.

6) H7/10 Orange (Starter Disable Relay output) what would this wire hook up to?

7) H7/3 BROWN / Black Factory Rearm Output-  What wire would I hook this up to, or does it go directly to the car wiring? Just making sure it is not to be connected to the Bypasskit, as their directions are pretty bad.

I will be starting the install in about an hour.  Thanks for any help you can give on this, as It will take a few hours to get it all hooked up and ready to go, so any answer any time will help me.

Thanks,

Bryan

Mike M2 
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Posted: December 10, 2006 at 9:52 AM / IP Logged  
I'm not familiar with your unit, but here is a few things that may help. Ground when armed is usually the starter kill relay wire(which is your question #6 wire). It has a negative whenever the alarm is armed. Starter in+ should be the key side of the starter positive wire. Cut the starter wire and connect as described. Left is always the drivers side...
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bry21317 
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Posted: December 10, 2006 at 2:07 PM / IP Logged  

Ok,

I think I got it all the way it should be, but I have a question on the size of the Yellow wire that is the starter crank wire in the Ignition Switch harness, this wire seems very tiny, like 14 gauge, is this the correct wire for the Large wire from the Starter out on the Remote start to connect to?  This is the wire that it states for it to be connected to, but it seems small to the other cars that I have done in the past.  I just put this same starter on my Suburban and it had wires that were about the same size as the wires from the remote start, this is why I am questioning this.

I have tested this wire and it is the wire that gets voltage only when you turn the key to crank the engine, so it has to be the correct wire, I am just worried about the diamter of the wire.

Bryan

Mike M2 
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Posted: December 10, 2006 at 3:23 PM / IP Logged  
All the igntion switch wires are thin, that's normal You can easily see them on the back of the switch where the plug is. Did you connect the second starter wire, voiolet/brown negative thru the 180ohm resistor?
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bry21317 
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Posted: December 10, 2006 at 5:11 PM / IP Logged  

Just wanted to make sure, yes I did the relay on the Second Starter Wire through the 180 Ohm Resistor.  I was just making sure that was the correct Crank wiire, a of how thin it is compared to the others I have done in the past.

Thanks for all the help, thats the only wire I have left to hook up, other than the ODB II Connector.  So I am about ready to finish it up and test it in a few.

Thanks,

Bryan

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It will be the only YELLOW wire in the ignition harness for the starter wire.
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john ogrady 
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Posted: December 10, 2006 at 9:44 PM / IP Logged  
The sides of the vehicle are made as if you are sitting in the driver's seat.So left is the driver's side and right is the passenger side.
bry21317 
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Posted: December 11, 2006 at 9:00 AM / IP Logged  

Thanks for all the Replies.

I got the Starter Installed, but have some Issues.

I wired the Unlock and Lock wires from the Remote Start to the CHDL 1B-PK Bypasskit.  This was supposed to control the door lock/unlock through the ODBII Line.  From what I understood on this model.  My Door locks are not locking or unlocking though, when I click the Button to lock it arms the alarm, it says, and then unarms on Unlocking.

I have 6 wires coming out of my Remote Start because the relays are built in. Mine is the one that states Alert/Shelby units with onboard relays.  It has 6 wires coming out of it, I ran the Blue White Wire to the Blue Wire on the CHDL 1b Unit.  I then Ran the Green and White wire to the green wire on the CHDL 1b.  I then tied to blue / YELLOW and GREEN/ YELLOW together and put a connector on them to ground them.  I then mounted this directly to a bolt under the Dash. It states at Bypasskit.com that this model does not need the Resistors as they are built in, do I still need to use them or not? Here is the wiring diagram:  http://64.85.6.129/extrainfo/diagrams/14301_CARAVAN_CHRYSLER%20MINI%20VAN%2001%20-%20UP%20%201%20WIRE%20ALERT%20SHELBY%20UNITS.pdf

The Remote Start is trying to crank the van, but it is not starting, its like it stops trying before it starts up.  I have left it at .6 seconds for the time for the Starter to be engaged, I have not had time to play with this, as it was about 10pm last night before I got it all put back together so the wife could drive it.  Should this be the trick that I am missing or is it something to do with this wire on the CHDL 1b that shows Starter in + Purple wire on the bypasskit.  I did not hook this up, but Ran the relay with the Resistor and Diode as shown in this diagram: http://64.85.6.129/extrainfo/diagrams/17044_CARAVAN_CHRYSLER%20MINI%20VAN%20STARTER%202%20DIAGRAM.pdf

Also, when I put the Key in the Ignition, now My parking lights and dash lights blink once.  Then when I start the car, and then shut it down to remove the Key the parking lights and dash lights blink 2 x's.  What would cause this?  My Remote starter has a built in relay for the Parking lights.  It is giving it a Negative Output and it is then going through the 2000ohm resistor into the Parking light wire on the Parking light switch.

The Sliding doors are working Perfect on Channels 4 and 5 of my alarm, but the other items are giving me issues.

Any Help would be greatly apreciated.

Thanks,

Bryan

bry21317 
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Posted: December 11, 2006 at 12:13 PM / IP Logged  

Just talked to support at Bypasskit.com, it seems like I don't need the Resistor/Relay on the wire for the starter 2 wire.  It seems they take care of this over the ODB II Port. Just connect the above mentioned Starter IN + wire to the actual Crank wire for the Remote Start, is what they told me.

On my door locks, I think that I forgot to hook up a wire on this Bypass module, to connect it to the Arm/Disarm Wire.  So I will try this when I get home.

Thanks,

Bryan

splaudio 
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Posted: December 12, 2006 at 4:35 PM / IP Logged  
that vans power wire can only hold 10amps first thing i would do is run a 8-10 gauge power wire for the starter. ur parking lights have to be wired - so u'll need a relay to flip the polarity...
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