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avistart 4100, ’06 vibe, accessory wire?


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Posted: May 15, 2007 at 3:51 PM / IP Logged  

There are two pink/whie wires -- one is a heavy gauge pink/whie wire (on an 8-wire harness) the other is a thinner gauge (on a 7-wire harness) that does the following:

that pink/white wire is -200mA output --> you can't tie that into a wire (BLACK / YELLOW) that needs to be supplied with high current 12 volts (check the manual and make sure it's a negative charged wire -- the pink/white)

You'll need another relay here:

85: pink/white wire off the avital

86: 12 volts fused positive

30: 12 volts fused positive (15A fuse)

87: BLACK / YELLOW wire of the Vibe

The OTHER pink/white wire (heavy gauge) can be connected directly to the BLACK / YELLOW ignition wire of the Vibe. 

Which pink/white wire are you using?

1) if you are using the -200mA pink/white wire -- it's a grounding polarity and it's grounding the black-yellow wire on the vibe and this no doubt is gunna interfere with appropriate remote starting

2) something is fishy with your connections -- explain exactly what you mean by "...car now does not remote start..."

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Posted: May 15, 2007 at 6:16 PM / IP Logged  
When the pink/white wire (heavy gauge) is connected to the BLACK / YELLOW wire the car does not remote start, when the pink/white wire is disconnected the car starts via remote but does not have any accessory control. I was not using the small pink/white wire (200mA) to connect to the BLACK / YELLOW. Any theories?
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Posted: May 15, 2007 at 10:42 PM / IP Logged  
Sounds like you have it right. That's VERY weird that the remote start won't work when the pink/white is connected.
Does the remote start not turn on? Or turns on but doesn't crank? Or cranks but doesn't start?
By the way, the RED / blue accessory wire just powers up a bunch of unnecessary stuff like the radio and power mirrors. I never hook it up, but it won't hurt anything if you do.
Also, the rear glass release button goes dead whenever the car is locked. Likewise, for your remote to opent he hatch, the car must be unlocked first too. Have you tried that?
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Posted: May 15, 2007 at 10:47 PM / IP Logged  

You should try to VM the heavy gauge pink/white wire while attempting a remote start and see what voltage and polarity you get on the voltmeter.

Please be specific about "...car does not remote start now..."

1) cranks? cranks, but no start? lights on dash go on but no crank???

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Posted: May 16, 2007 at 6:11 AM / IP Logged  
When the pink/white wire (module) is connected to the BLACK / YELLOW wire and the remote start button is pressed I just hear a few clicks (relays?) and nothing happens. When the pink/white wire (module) is disconnected from the BLACK / YELLOW wire the car cranks and runs via remote start mode.
I have VM'd the pink/white wire when starting and it does show 12V. Should I try removing the orange (heavy gauge) wire from the blue/red and connecting it to the BLACK / YELLOW?
As far as the rear glass, it all works as it is suppose to once I connected the relay.
Also, once the car has been started via remote start and is running, I press the start button again (*) so I can pull the key out with the car running....it does not work. The car just turns off when the key is removed. I assume that this and the accessory problem could be linked?
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Posted: May 16, 2007 at 10:02 AM / IP Logged  

What you describe in the circumstance of [p/w wire connected to b/y wire] seems to me like the Starter wire [red on the vibe, and you have a starter interrupt purple, green wires on the avital] is having issues;

Have you reviewed your starter kill/interrupt connections?  You split the red starter wire in TWO.... You have the purple outpul wire (avital) going to the starter/motor side of the Vibe red starter wire; and you have the green (avital) wire going to the key side of the vibe red starter wire? 

How are you making your connections (you stated your previous one was not appropriate)?

Are all your harnesses securely fastened to the r/s brain module?

What, if anything, do you have connected to the 7-wire harness?

If we assume all your connections are correct, and your Vibe is in good working order w/o the r/s unit installed, then it's logical to assume your r/s module is defective and it's time to try another one.

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Posted: May 16, 2007 at 1:24 PM / IP Logged  
I am a little unclear regarding the "purple,green" wires on the avital. I do not have a green wire, the only green wire I have is the one for the door lock.
The 4100 module seems to be doing what it is suppose to, I can start the car and measure all the voltages on the "heavy gauge" connector and they all seem to have the correct voltage on them.
I do have one red wire (module) connected to white wire (ignition) and the other red wire (module) connected to the black wire (ignition). The purple wire (module) is connected to the red wire (ignition), the orange wire (module) is connected to the blue/red wire (ignition). The pink wires are connected as stated before. Is all this correct?
Connections: Ignition harness connections are soldered, the rest are T-Taps. The manual stated not to use T-Taps for the heavy gauge stuff.
All harness connections are tight at the r/s brain.
I do not have a 7-wire harness.
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Posted: May 16, 2007 at 1:41 PM / IP Logged  
Hmm. All your connections at the ignition switch sound right.
The only thing I do differently, is I put both of my constant-power (red) wires to the heavy black on the Toyota.
The thin white constant-power wire is only fused at 5 amps (I think), it should be the AM2 fuse in the underhood fuse box.
Re-test to verify that both the black and the white (on the car) still have constant power. It would be easy to blow the little fuse on the white wire.
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Posted: May 16, 2007 at 3:13 PM / IP Logged  
Thanks, I will try that tonight. I was wondering if putting one of the red wires (module) on that was a good idea!? I will try that and let you know, thanks for the help/support.
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Posted: May 16, 2007 at 7:37 PM / IP Logged  

Speaking of constant power -- what are you currently using for your constant power -- did you run a line ot the battery?

(sorry, the 4200 has a 7-wire harness as well as a built in starter kill .. forgot that you had the 4100).

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