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spudsmac 
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Posted: September 05, 2010 at 6:36 PM / IP Logged  
Greetings. I'm installing a Viper 5901 in my 08 TSX and have gotten through the alarm part with no issues and have some questions on the remote start.
I'm using a PKH34 bypass module and going to wire it w2w. on the wire guide, it says to connect it to the security light wire (key and ECM side). I guess that's the flashing red LED on the dash. It's not listed on the wiring diagram. Do I actually need to connect it, or can I just tape off the wires? It still flashes since the factory alarm works side by side with the Viper. Any help is appreciated!
spudsmac 
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Posted: September 06, 2010 at 8:54 AM / IP Logged  
Ok, I havent hooked up the PKH34 yet because I want to test the remote start with the key in the ignition to make troubleshooting easier. Problem is that I get the 7 flashes error (which actually doe sent flash, but I just hear the relay). I assume it wants to see the shutdown sequence for manual, but I have auto. I can't seem to get to change the programing. I get to menu 3, option 1 and can't figure out how to change it from there. It says to hold down the valet button While pressing the lock button on the remote, but it just goes to option 2 when I do that. What gives?
spudsmac 
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Posted: September 06, 2010 at 9:56 AM / IP Logged  
Got the remote start working...kinda. It just keeps cranking. I didn't hook up the tach wire. The problem before was the NEUTRAL SAFETY SWITCH INPUT. Just need to find the tach wire now, install the PKH34 and clean it up. 08 tsx, viper 5901 -- posted image.
Any ideas yet on the security light connection?
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Posted: September 06, 2010 at 12:32 PM / IP Logged  
Tach wire is a BLUE wire at pin # 25 AT PCM MODULE IN FRONT OF CENTER CONSOLE UNDER DASH. The security light wire will have to be cut in half and it's BLUE/ORANGE at pin # 5 at the immobilizer harness in the steering wheel.
Content below courtesy of Stephane at iDatalink:
If the remote starter energizes the ignition and the vehicle cranks but fails to start, the following should be verified:
1- Ensure the Ground When Running (-) Status is energized before the vehicle ignition.
2- Ensure the Remote Starter doorlocks settings are NOT set to send Unlock before start (also known as secure lock). The vehicle OEM alarm disarm has to be controlled by the remote starter disarm command, not by the remote starter unlock command. Timings are criticals and different on both commands.
3- Ensure the LED of the module blinks upon a remote start attempt, if the LED doesn't blink the module doesn't receive the GWR signal. The module might be programmed in the wrong mode (Data/Hardwire), the remote starter may not be set for the appropriate bypass protocol DBI, iDatalink or others, or, the module is been flashed with an incomaptible protocol with the remote starter.
In all cases ensure the protocol selected for both devices are compatible and ensure proper mode is selected during module programming.
In 4 points most remote start failures are adressed. All cases are experienced during the install and can be adressed very rapidly.
Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
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Morden, Manitoba CANADA
spudsmac 
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Posted: September 06, 2010 at 12:38 PM / IP Logged  
Thanks for the response.
The PCM is not easy to get to. I'm going to try to figure it out another way. The engine starts, it just does not disengage the starter. I changed the starter time to .8 seconds, but it just keeps it engaged.
Also, there seems to be an issue with the starter kill. The relay does not close when the alarm is disarmed, it's also open when it's armed. I know it works because the only way to start the car is to engage the remote start, put the key in the II position and turn off the remote start :( . It was working fine before and I have not changed any wiring.
spudsmac 
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Posted: September 06, 2010 at 12:49 PM / IP Logged  
The siren also does one chirp when I turn the key to the off position. Grrr this is getting frustrating.
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Posted: September 06, 2010 at 1:18 PM / IP Logged  
You can get the tach wire at the injectors as well. The starter not disengaging is because the immobilizer is not bypassed properly. If the security LED is flashing in the dash when remote started, it's because the bypass module is not sending the proper code to the immobilizer.
Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
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Morden, Manitoba CANADA
spudsmac 
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Posted: September 06, 2010 at 1:19 PM / IP Logged  
Rog. Got it for the starter not disengaging. Thanks.
What about the starter kill not disengaging when the alarm is disarmed?
spudsmac 
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Posted: September 06, 2010 at 1:21 PM / IP Logged  
I have been testing it with the key in the ignition also.
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Posted: September 06, 2010 at 1:31 PM / IP Logged  
Do you have another relay you can temporarily use in plac eof the starter kill ?
Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
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Morden, Manitoba CANADA
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