avital 4103 unlock/lock not working

I have installed the 4103 on my 1991 Lincoln Continental.4 door power locks no security entry.

 I have R/S hooked up working properly. Parking lights work, horn works but locks and trunk do not work. I have looked and can not find anything specific to my cars issue. I have tried 2 pulses and pulse duration.I was/am under the impression I do NOT need any relays or bypasses. If someone else has any input to help and maybe has another sugestion I would greatly apreciate input.I am guessing I need a relay at trunk but power locks from my understanding should not.

thanks

Trunk release   Purple / YELLOW    at switch

door lock Pink / YELLOW        drivers kick

door unlock       Pink/Light Green          drivers kick

If you have factory keyless entry then it will be type b negitive locks but if your car doesn't have factory keyless entry you will need either 2 relays and wire it as 5 wire locks diagram is on this site. Or you can get a 451M module    The trunk release is positive trigger from the car, the RED / white from the 4103 is negative so you will need a relay there too It looks like you have the correct color wiresIf i Can't Install it    I Don't need it   Joe

Thats what I was afraid of or kinda thinking.

So the 451M would correct my locking issues without the relay?

thanks for the reply.

Yes the 451M replaces the 2 lock relays but you will still need one for the trunkIf i Can't Install it    I Don't need it   Joe

I have been looking at diagrams for the relay wiring for the trunk release and they are all different. Does anyone know the correct exact way?

thanks

I have this

87 to ground

87a to latch side of trunk switch on purple / YELLOW

87 to ground

85 to r/s trunk output

30 to trunk side of trunk switch on purple / YELLOW

no fuse is needed?

some say to cut purple / YELLOW and other say not too, so what is it?

I've never personally done your car but all my info says positive trigger not 5 wire so wire the relay like this 87 to fused 12 volts 30 to trunk release wire 85 to 4103 trunk release wire 86 to fused 12 volts If i Can't Install it    I Don't need it   Joe

Thanks for the response for the trunk its working perfectly now

Im having a ltittle trouble with the lock still. The 451M I have hooked up but keep blowing fuses. I have looked over this site and some say to not hook up white and brown, some say to combine together and ground and others say to cut motor wires etc. So Im confused.

power lock         pink / YELLOW to           451m green

power unlock    pink/green to  451m  blue

lock motor          pink/black    ???? I tried brown and white pop fuse

unlock motor     pink/orange ???    this said RED / orange in the wiring diagram but its wrong I check at switch and its pink/orange FYI.I tried brown and white pop fuse

any other ideas. Do I need to cut wires completly etc.

thanks in advance Im almost done but a little more and Ive got it.

Sorry I can't help much with the 451M I've never used one. I always use relays. I tried to download the install guide but my phone won't let me. Follow the type C install instructions and yes you will need to cut the wires in halfIf i Can't Install it    I Don't need it   Joe

Ok I did a relay instead and still have problems.This should be correct the way I have it. do I need to cut and tie off lock motor wires? they are pink black and pink/orange maybe?

cut pink / YELLOW

87a to pink / YELLOW      switch side

30 to pink / YELLOW        motor side

86 to alarm lock

87 and 85 12volt power

cut pink/green

87a to pink/green   switch

30 to pink/green     motor

85 to r/s unlock

87 and 86 12 volt power

thanks for you help

When you tested your pink / YELLOW and pink green, how did they test?  Positive or negative?Advanced