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mdaul87 
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Posted: December 04, 2012 at 9:40 AM / IP Logged  
have just a few questions for the remote start wiring. there are 9 wires as follows:
1. (+) ignition 1 input/output
2. (+) fused (30a) ignition 2/flex relay input 87
3. (+) accessory output
4. (+) starter output (car side)
5. (+) starter output (key side)
6. (+) fused (30a) ignition 1 input
7. (+) ignition 2/flex relay output
8. (+) flex relay input 87a key side (if required) of flex relay
9. (+) fused (30a) accessory/starter input
so heres how i would wire it:
1. connect to the ignition wire in the ignition harness (pink)
2. i dont believe my car has an ignition 2 wire (correct me if im wrong) not used
3. connect to the accessory wire in the ignition harness (orange)
4. cut starter wire (yellow) in ignition harness and connect to the side that runs to the starter
5. connect to the other side of the starter wire that runs to the key
6. ?? detailed instructions describe this wire as: this wire is the polarity feed for the ignition 1 relay. what do i hook this up to?
7. not used
8. not used
9. ?? described as: this wire is the polarity feed to the accessory and starter relays. what do i hook this up to?
any help would be appreciated.
thanks!
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Posted: December 04, 2012 at 9:56 AM / IP Logged  
1. (+) ignition 1 input/output - you are correct
2. (+) fused (30a) ignition 2/flex relay input 87 - to red 12v constant
3. (+) accessory output - you are correct
4. (+) starter output (car side) - you are correct
5. (+) starter output (key side) - you are correct
6. (+) fused (30a) ignition 1 input - to red 12v constant
7. (+) ignition 2/flex relay output - to brown 2nd ACC wire - change option in Viper for 2nd ACC
8. (+) flex relay input 87a key side (if required) of flex relay - you are correct
9. (+) fused (30a) accessory/starter input - to red 12v constant
Also make sure you have a bypass module for the Passlock II on that car for the remote starter.
mdaul87 
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Posted: December 04, 2012 at 10:18 AM / IP Logged  
thanks for the help!
i have purchased the xpresskit pljx for the passlock bypass. but now looking at the wiring for that i've confused myself again... their diagram is a little strange
viper 5704 on 2003 cavalier -- posted image.
im not sure what the brown wire (ground when running status output from remote start) connects to on the 5704.
also im assuming to just ignore the vats part of the diagram
the last thing is the keysense wire. i dont think my car has that wire. only 3 wires are there (white, black and yellow). safe to just ignore this wire as well?
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The brown (GWR) wire from the PLJX goes to the Dark Blue status output wire from the Viper. That's what tells the module that remote start is about to run.
You are correct, you wouldn't use the VATS section. That's a different and older type of antitheft system.
Keysense isn't necessary for this setup.
The white, black and yellow are the Passlock II wires that you will connect the PLJX to. Make sure the jumpers are set correctly before programming it.
mdaul87 
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Posted: December 04, 2012 at 10:53 AM / IP Logged  
feel kinda dumb about the dark blue wire on the 5704. i was scanning the manual for the word ground, not status but i see it now. i was only finding the ground when armed output wire.
now if the ups man would just hurry up and get here... lol ill post back to let you know how it goes.
thanks again for the help!
mdaul87 
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Posted: December 04, 2012 at 11:42 AM / IP Logged  
sorry one more question...
i have the car taken apart and have access to the ignition harness, problem is there are two red wires, one brown and then the yellow, pink and orange. both red test at 12v when the car is off with no key in the ignition. does it matter which one i use?
viper 5704 on 2003 cavalier -- posted image.
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Either red is fine to use. They both supply more than enough power (50A) for the remote starter.
If one red is noticeably thicker than the other, use the thicker one.
Otherwise, either should work fine.
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Or both, supply half of your 12V constants to each.
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i always use both to avoid problems that can happen when you draw too much current through a single wire. that is also why there are two wires to begin with. it doesnt matter which red wires from the alarm you hook to which wire on the car.
mdaul87 
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i used both red wires. it was a little weird getting in the menu to program the transmission mode, listening to/counting siren chirps etc but i figured it out
so the remote start, door locks, alarm and trunk release all work great... as far as the parking light flashes im not sure how to hook that up.
i have 2 wires:
1. parking light isolation wire (pin 87a of onboard relay) (WHITE/ brown)
2. parking light output (white)
i'd also like to try to get the rear defrost to turn on when remote started but im not sure the difference between latch and pulse rear defogger
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