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blazing_nitro 
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Posted: January 06, 2013 at 11:34 AM / IP Logged  

Going crazy. I'm trying to get my directed pkall bypass module programmed without sucess.

2012 Toyota Sienna. Version 4.02 software on the module.

Following the instructions I hold the program button then connect wires. Programming light stays lit and then use the key, on, and then start. Car shuts off and programming light stays lit.

Car starts fine if I remove the power to the module. Tried reversing the cut wire still no go.

If I remove the connectors with the imo the car doesn't start.

Any ideas or things I can try?

blazing_nitro 
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Forgot to mention that when I first wired the pkall unit the internet instructions said to wire 12v positive to the blue wire. The module never powered on and when I checked the original instructions that came in the pkall it mentioned pin 1 red or blue wire. I changed the wire to the red on pin 1 and unit powered on. Did I break this thing?
blazing_nitro 
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Posted: January 06, 2013 at 7:24 PM / IP Logged  
I checked my wiring on the pkall bypass again tonight.
Red 12v+
Black 12v-ve
PURPLE / white green IMO
Yellow/black & ORANGE / brown to cut end of purple imi
Green purple to cut end of imi
Blue status wire to black wire from compustar alarm starter
Instructions says blue/white is status but seems to be only blue in same pin slot
Tried this time without the compustar hooked up (no status wire) and didn't work. Should I ground the status wire.
If I leave the key in the ignition in the off position the remote start works fine.
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Posted: January 06, 2013 at 7:43 PM / IP Logged  

Looks like the wiring is correct, with one possible typo :

Green purple to cut end of imi      Should be     Green to cut end of Purple IMI ( connector side)

All these connections should be soldered and insulated. 

The PKALL is the same as the Fortin KeyOverRideAll ( except with DBI D2D ).  Here is a link to the

Fortin install guide :  https://ifar.ca/download/2121/preview.html   They list the correct wire colors.

Here is a link to another source for the IMO / IMI wire info :  http://www.checkyourground.com/

The latest firmware for the PKALL is probably Ver 4.06 although anything over Ver 4.01 should work.

Soldering is fun!
blazing_nitro 
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Posted: January 06, 2013 at 8:13 PM / IP Logged  
Kreg357 I was hoping you we're going to help me. Thanks for the quick reply I'm going to try again tomorrow.
blazing_nitro 
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Posted: January 06, 2013 at 8:19 PM / IP Logged  
Just checked and I had the green wire connected to the cut purple wire on the connector side. Could it be the status wire can I just try grounding it.
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Posted: January 06, 2013 at 9:11 PM / IP Logged  

Not while programming.  The GWR wire should only go active during a remote start.

Does the PKALL LED act in accordance with the info in the programming steps?  Turning on at Step 4 when the power plug is connected, etc.

Soldering is fun!
blazing_nitro 
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Posted: January 06, 2013 at 10:26 PM / IP Logged  
Yes I hold the program button plug connectors with power being last and light turns on. Release the button and put key and turn to on, wait and then try to start. Car starts then shuts off. The light stays in the lit position without any flashing.
I tried not holding the program button while plugging the connectors and the light stays on the on or lit position.
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Posted: January 07, 2013 at 4:08 AM / IP Logged  

The engine should start during programming and stay running.  Does the van start normally with the key and run

with everything connected?

Think I would verify my wiring on the Purple IMI wire, making sure the PKALL's Light Green goes to the connector

side of the cut Purple IMI wire and the PKALL's Yellow/Black and ORANGE / Brown wires go to the other side of the cut
Purple IMI wire.

Soldering is fun!
blazing_nitro 
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Posted: January 07, 2013 at 5:58 AM / IP Logged  
The van starts and runs normal when the wires are attached to the module minus the power cable. When the wires are not plugged in the module the car shuts off after trying to start.
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