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vmail 
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Posted: August 18, 2003 at 2:00 PM / IP Logged  

My car is a 2003 Yaris 1.3 CDX, I have fitted a Scorpion 1014T2, All doors, boot, bonnet, immobiliser, ultra sonics and central locking are connected. Just cant get the Total Closure to work, its -ve trigger,

Front Drivers Side

Red wire in 10 way connector on push button pannel

Front Passenger Side

Blue/Red wire in 13 way connector near sill cover

Totoya and Cobra both confirm this but I am getting nothing, I have used Diodes to separate the C-loccing and the windows, I have set the alarm trigger to 30sec to close the window

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Posted: August 18, 2003 at 4:52 PM / IP Logged  
I don't think i understood a thing you said but you must know what your doing from what i did understand, its probally something simple , walk away and I'm sure you will get it.
zargon ruler of estranorth
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tryed that, walked away for 4 months
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Are you trying to get the windows to roll all the way up?
So your trouble is that stop some of the way up?
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Toyota website bites.. Cannot find out any real details about your car.
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Yes I am  trying to get the windows to roll all the way up, but I am getting nothing, its not even moving a mm, i think i understand why, the window controls only work with the ignition on, I am trying to close the window(using the alarm) with the ignition off, so I need a relay circuit which will power the window circuit and also create a negitive trigger for the c-locks and windows

What would you like to know about the car? (I probably know more than Toyota, they hardly know anything when I phoned 5 of their showrooms)

floaterr 
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Posted: August 20, 2003 at 3:35 PM / IP Logged  
LOL
I was trying to look up Total closure. I thought maybe it was a feature not offered or named soemthing else in the US. Now I understand though. Total Closure -- posted image.
If you have installed a window roll up module then you just need to route the power wire to a constant source. The relay would just be over kill and more extra wiring. Make sure to fuse it close to the source since it will need to be higher power (20 amps).
I cannot find much on the alarm system either. How are you hooking the windows up to the alarm? Some systems have a secondary output for that and some recommend putting it to the starter kill (immobilizer) output. Which are you shooting for? Let me know what the output is suppose to do (time,polarity,when its activated)
Also I see in the info for the alarm what they are talking about when they say total closer. Fancy name(s) we don't use here.
Good luck
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Posted: August 20, 2003 at 4:27 PM / IP Logged  

"The relay would just be over kill and more extra wiring" What do you mean? im not bothered about the extra wires

There are 3 wires

GREEN/ Black(source of +ve or -ve trigger)
Yellow/Black (Open Locks)
Yellow (Close Locks and Close Windows (but must be separated by 2 diodes))

just an Idea the alarm has 2 immobilizer points

(Purple and PURPLE / black) this bypasses a wire either fuel pump or ECU, or even better (Yellow/Red) single cable which goes to a relay to cut either fuel pump or ECU

I could use that to power the window circuit for 40sec

The total closure circuit timing options are 0.5sec, 1 sec or 30sec (I need 14 sec to close the windows)

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/v-mail/1014t2.jpg

sorry about the image quality

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total closer (close electic windows) Toyota call it Global Closure, what do you call it in the states?
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Total Closure -- posted image.
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