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canter6 
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Hi all,

after doing tsome reading on multiple forums regard gm's passlock 2 system i have decided to post here hoping one of you guys can help me with your expertise.

I just bought a 1998 isuzu hombre 2.2l

the original builder of the truck installed a momentary switch for the starter, and a toggle switch to turn the truck on (like run position on lock cylinder)

The problem i am having is as follows, the typical passlock 2 problem where the truck starts for a second or two then the fuel shuts off.. this is only a recent problem (battery died)

i have tried to cycle the key in the run position for 10 min. to relearn. and the security light does not change its status even after 11 min. (sometimes the light flashes) (sometimes its solid) its solid while doing the relearn procedure.

when i initially flip the switch to prime the truck etc (run position) and have the key to the run position sometimes the security light isnt on... it starts then dies. just like the passlock 2 fashion.

i check the column for the typical cut ellow wire, and it was indeed intact, but there is no "bypass module" to be seen other than a door popper box.

last night i cut the yellow wire to pull the resistance from key side of yellow wire to the BLACK/ orange wire

which at 3 different times read 1330 1374 and 1380 (1380 was with fully charged battery which is the number im going with to get the resistors. does this number sound accurate?

im just hoping tht witch this information one of you may be able to point me in the right direction to get this terd on the road, as frankly im tired of riding my motorcycle in the rain :)

if anyone has anymore questions feel free to ask and i'll answer as fully as i am able to "help you help me"

thanks again guys 98 Hombre/S10 Passlock 2 -- posted image. 

canter6 
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i dont see an edit button here.. but would like to clarify that the security light does not change status at all during relearn. in the multiple attempts at relearn it has always been solid.

BUT sometimes when i flip the switch the light blinks, sometimes its solid, and sometimes its off.

ckeeler 
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go with the 1380 reading and find the resistors to make a matching resistance. connect one side to the yellow wire going to the bcm(forget about the side goind to the switch), connect the other side to the black wire(do not cut it), and voila! back in business.
canter6 
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right.. thats what i figured..

but.. im resister stupid.. when purchasing the resisters.. do i get a 1000ohm and a 400 ohm to equal 1400ohm... or is it not that simple?

ckeeler 
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no, you got it. its that simple. i have tons of resistors laying around. i put together the values i need and measure with a digital volt/ohm meter until i hit as close as possible to my target value. works every time.....muahahaha.....
canter6 
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thanks ckeeler..

have you ever seen or heard of anyone bypassing the lock cylinder in this this way?...

i havent pull the dash off where the switch is yet.. to see if he wired resistors in, near the switch.. but i did trace the yellow wire all the way through the loom and didnt see a break anywhere.  i just cant seem to figure out how he got it to run in the first place with out the tumbler.....

ckeeler 
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ive seen it many times and done it many times myself as well. your probably going to find where he did it when you take off the steering column shroud. get the wires there on the top side of the lock tumbler. the old connection may have just come loose...?? who knows, might be a more simple fix than thought.....

canter6 
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yeah ive got that shroud off.. and everything looks normal...this is where i clipped to measure resistance. 

under the dash by the column hes tapped a few wires, looks like power source to door popper.. but no 22 gauge wires were cut just the 18 gauge stuff like the starter wire.

sounds like youre pretty familiar with this stuff. i appreciate all you feedback and help

canter6 
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also i need to clarify the switch on the dash is NOT the typical cut the yellow wire and put a switch in type switch...  when you flip this switch it turns the power on to the vehicle (like a race car)

canter6 
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ok tried the resistor trick last night... and no luck. tried the re-learn with resistors ... no luck

on top of that before doing the resistor trick i could get the truck to fire and turn over then die, afterwards.. the truck wouldnt turn over just crank.

so i uninstalled the resistors.. and then it would trn over again (just not stay running.)

i really think it has something to do with the flip switch to power the truck, and how the guy wired this thing.. its a rats nest under the column, and the guy just twisted wires together.. ive spent the past week (only about an hour a night) untwisting, and reconnecting via butt connectors and spades.

does anybody here have an actual wiring schem. for this thing so i can put it back to bone stock and start from scratch, rather than chasing down problems from the previous installer.

below are some of the pictures depicting what im talking about with the wiring mess.

98 Hombre/S10 Passlock 2 -- posted image.

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