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Posted: May 11, 2009 at 6:42 AM / IP Logged  
hello guys my first time here ,i need help on a 2003 nissan murano i have done remote starter [avital5303] and  what happens is that when i unlock the car with the remote the windows go down all the way,then if i press lock it goes half way up,  the right way to work wwould be to press lock or unlock and nothing happens with the windows [just front windows right and left that are moving  with lock\ unlock ]the back windows they are not moving with the lock/unlock. i also  want to put on  this car  2 of 530t  but i need fix this issue before .thanks
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Posted: May 11, 2009 at 6:49 AM / IP Logged  

It sounds like your lock/unlock trigger is too long.  Anything much longer then 0.8 seconds will cause the windows to start moving.

Kevin Pierson
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Hi Ricardo (you're not Brazilian by chance, are you?),
like KPierson said, the doorlock pulses are too long.
You have three options:
1. If available in programming, reduce the timing of your lock output.
2. Use the search feature here, and get the doorlocks at the BCM inside the car instead of going inside the door.
3. Configure a relay, for a positive pulse, activated by your "factory alarm disarm" and "factory alarm rearm" pulses from the remote starter.........connect the relay's output to the car's ignition wire.
This will power up the car's ignition wire every time you lock and unlock. The car's automated windows don't work with the ignition on, so you'll be all set.
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Windows control: The car already has automated windows. Just connect your AUX output(s) from your remote starter to the car's lock and unlock wires..........as you've already seen, if you put an extended pulse on the wire, the windows will go up or down.
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Posted: May 12, 2009 at 6:50 AM / IP Logged  
Chris Luongo ,kpierson im very happy for your guys help  i haven't tried it yet but i will on saturday i want just to make sure that i will do the right thing ,i forgot to mention  when im on the car driving  the doors will lock normally but if i have to  stay in the car for a couple of seconds for  unlock doors it  takes a couple seconds to worknormally it  works when the car shuts off ,then if i try to get out of the car fast , the front windows move down but if i stay a couple of seconds more waiting inside the car  everthing is ok  .the problem is every time  im driving then stop i have to stay a couple seconds inside thats is not correct way to work ,about 530t you're sayng i dont need it?not at all even for the back windows ?before  i forget  yes  im brazilian thanks ..
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ricardoboston wrote:
Chris Luongo ,kpierson im very happy for your guys help i haven't tried it yet but i will on saturday i want just to make sure that i will do the right thing ,i forgot to mention when im on the car driving the doors will lock normally but if i have to stay in the car for a couple of seconds for unlock doors it takes a couple seconds to worknormally it works when the car shuts off ,then if i try to get out of the car fast , the front windows move down but if i stay a couple of seconds more waiting inside the car everthing is ok .the problem is every time im driving then stop i have to stay a couple seconds inside thats is not correct way to work ,about 530t you're sayng i dont need it?not at all even for the back windows ?before i forget yes im brazilian thanks ..
The moderators generally want us to keep everything in one post, so it doesn't get mixed up.
Do you have the "ignition controlled doorlocks" feature from the remote start turned on? Because the Nissan requires two pulses to unlock the doors, there will always be that delay when unlocking.
Maybe your Murano already has an automatic doorlock feature from the factory, that will lock the doors when you put the car in Drive, and unlock when you put it in Park? If it does, just use that.....and turn off the ignition controlled locks from the remote start.
And as far as whether you need a 530T, yes, you'll need it if you want to control the rear windows. But you could probably at least use the factory Nissan feature for the front windows and save a little time and money.
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Posted: May 12, 2009 at 9:42 AM / IP Logged  

You will need it for the rear windows as no Muranos have anti pinch on the rear windows.

Could you please try to clearify the description of the problem regarding the windows.  Are you saying if you shut the ignition off and right away open the doors the windows drop, but if you turn the ignition off and wait a few seconds before opening the door the windows do not drop?

Kevin Pierson
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Posted: May 12, 2009 at 7:16 PM / IP Logged  
hello  i whant to thank you guys chris luongo and kpierson for still  helping me,kpierson about  it

Could you please try to clearify the description of the problem regarding the windows.  Are you saying if you shut the ignition off and right away open the doors the windows drop, but if you turn the ignition off and wait a few seconds before opening the door the windows do not drop?

yes that's right  its exactly like that  .maybe it happening because the double pulse??? or because i use the factory alarm disarm with unlock?/? well i have  another questio is should i  use  ORANGE ground when armed  for rear  windows up  connected  with 530t and  same wire  connected too with lock to make front windows up?or should i use confot closure on  for front windows ?and  RED / WHITE [-]200ma channel 2 validity for rear  windows down with 530t  and same wire connected  with unlock  for front windows down ?  or another option is violet/black and WHITE/ black unit its a  AVITAL5303  CHRIS LUONGO CONTACT AT AMERICADONORTE@HOTMAIL.COM,THANKS
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if you would want the windows to roll on arming, you could use the comfort close on the front windows via the lock wire, and use the orange for the rear with the 530t, it would be easier as you would not have to diode isolate, the RED / white wire can be used for down, diode isolate to unlock trigger and 530t trigger, band facing alarm.
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Posted: May 19, 2009 at 6:38 AM / IP Logged  
hello guys im back here just to say  thank you all for being professinal and friendly ,i definatly finished  that murano last saturday and  almost everthing is workin  except  for the driver's door  ,its not doing lock anymore it does do the unlock ,and all 3 passenger doors are fine,could it be a bad relay or fuse ?any idea how i can solve or test it thanks
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Posted: May 19, 2009 at 7:27 AM / IP Logged  
Does it just not lock with the alarm?  Does the interior "lock" button still function?  How about the OEM keyless remote?  Since you are using a (-) signal to lock the doors I can't think of any reason why the alarm would fail to lock all the doors at once - this vehicle uses a "shared" lock output from the BCM.
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