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orlpanda31 
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Just trying to install a viper 5901 into my 08 Scion Xb, but the remote start doesn't seem to want to work for me.
i didn't want the lights to flash, so i didn't hook up the parking light wire, but i'm getting 7 relay clicks indicating the neutral start isn't grounded.
It's grounded, and the switch is on, but i still got nothing, after trying different grounds, trying to bypass the switch with an alligator clip, etc....
Anything that i might've missed out on? i'm pretty sure I've got the right ends of the ignition wire cut because the car is still starting with the key when the alarm is off, and the ignition wire is the only grey one on the harness (via 3 different sources)
I've heard on the forum of someone having an issue with one right out of the box, but didn't know how common it was for them to be DOA as far as remote start.
If it does seem to be a defective unit, any suggestions as to replacing it? I know Viper probably will have nothing to do with me since I'm not an authorized installer, but I'm afraid of going back to the online retailer i got it from-- especially if they're going to ask me for the harnesses that I've already spent the time to put into place.
I've done a ton of radio installs and two 791 xv's, so i've got a little experience with it, but im discouraged with the possibility of a defective unit
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make sure its in automatic mode and not manual and make sure that extra neutral safety toggle siwtch is plugged in ALONG with the BLACK/ white wire grounded.
orlpanda31 
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im sorry-- automatic mode?
the switch doesnt do anything either way-- i tried bypassing it with the alligator clip just to check for a faulty mechanism.
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option on 1 on menu three
orlpanda31 
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is this via the bitwriter or something that im missing in the external programming?
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Posted: March 04, 2010 at 6:25 AM / IP Logged  

you can program it with the remotes.

the unit is defaulted for manual tranny, you need to switch it to auto and have the nss plugged in and grounded.

in other words, read the manual

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orlpanda31 
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thanks guys, ill check it out-- i had to cut the install short since i hit the speedbump and needed to get the car back together for work
orlpanda31 
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alright, so i got the manual switched to automatic, but it appears things still arent working.
the dash doesnt even light up during the process.
One source on THIS site says that it's one power, one ignition wire.
Another, as well as scionlife.com says its 2 and 2-- which checks out with what i can tell via test light.
How would i go about wiring this? will i need to use additional relays for a second start/ignition wire?
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Posted: March 13, 2010 at 7:18 PM / IP Logged  

I have it listed as 2 ignitions and 2 start wires.

ign 1 - grey pin 6

ign 2 - white pin 4
start 1 - white pin8
start 2 - white pin 1

you will need a relay for any addition start/ign

85 - ign or start (-) from unit

86 - constant 12v
87 - constant 12v
30 - to ign or start wire on car.

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orlpanda31 
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Posted: March 13, 2010 at 7:53 PM / IP Logged  
but are there any additional wires on the module that i may be missing to use as a second start/igntion wire?
i would think that the dash would light up-- i jumped a test 12v+ to the ignition wire i have hooked up to the pink wire and it lit right up
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