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chjade84 
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Posted: August 12, 2010 at 8:23 PM / IP Logged  
Well I'm in too deep to stop now... lol.
I got the security system turned off and that's as far as I've gotten so far. :( The instructions I have (the installation manual, wire colors from here and the sheet that is specific for this truck) aren't doing me much good. I'm stuck at getting the doors to lock and unlock - haven't even tried the starter yet. Hopefully someone here can lend a hand.
The two wires out of the unit (blue and green) are +12v and ground and reverse polarity to lock and unlock. Here's what I have to go on:
Python Unit:
Blue: (+) lock (-) Unlock Output
Green: (-) lock (+) Unlock Output
Wiring from here:
Door Trigger: RED / black (-)
Door Lock: light GREEN/ red (-)
Door Unlock: brown (-)
Driver's Lock: blue (+)
Drivers Unlock: GREEN / WHITE (+)
Passenger Unlock blue/red (+)
From the "Xterra specific" instructions:
Power Lock: yellow
Power Unlock: yellow/red
Lock Motor: blue
Driver Unlock Motor: GREEN / WHITE
Passenger Unlock Motor: blue/red
Ideally I'd like for one press to unlock everything and one press to lock everything, but if all I can get is the driver's side... I guess I'd take it being 3.5 hours into the install...
I have one more 12 volt relay if I need it.
Thanks in advance for any help!
chjade84 
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Posted: August 12, 2010 at 9:48 PM / IP Logged  
Well I thought I had it, driver's side lock GREEN / WHITE is +12 on unlock and - on lock and unlock is GREEN / WHITE - blue +12. The output of the module fits perfectly with that, reversing polarity for lock and unlock. Tried it, no dice; no more ideas...
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Posted: August 13, 2010 at 7:37 AM / IP Logged  

Try this: 

 Green Lock wire from Python to trucks' Yellow (-) Lock wire.

Blue UnLock wire from Python to trucks' Yellow/Red (-) UnLock wire.  Set the Python to double pulse on unlock.

These wires are found at the SECU.  This info from Bulldog Security: THE SECU (Security Electronic Control Unit) IS LOCATED ABOVE THE HOOD RELEASE IN THE DRIVERS KICK PANEL.THESE WIRES WILL ONLY METER WHEN TURNING KEY IN DOORLOCK CYLINDER.   Testing all wires with a DMM is a good idea.

I would also place a diode in these connections with the band towards the Python unit.

That should lock and unlock all doors with one button press.

Soldering is fun!
chjade84 
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Posted: August 13, 2010 at 10:50 AM / IP Logged  
You, sir, are a genius! It works great! Now... on to the starter... wish me luck! lol
chjade84 
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Posted: August 13, 2010 at 2:50 PM / IP Logged  
Alright, moving along I'm to the point of testing the starter. It gives me an error that says neutral wire must be grounded. It IS grounded... I tried in a few different spots (including the same spot the whole system is grounded to. The unit is set to automatic mode, that was my first error I got, had it in manual by default.
On the upside, everything else seems to work.
chjade84 
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Posted: August 13, 2010 at 3:01 PM / IP Logged  
Ok, never mind, I'm just an idiot and forgot to plug in the enable/disable toggle switch. You'd think that would be a separate error code...
Anyway, it plays it's happy little song on the remote and the unit is clicking away, but no cranking. It clicks probably 15 times in about 15 seconds presumably doing something, but it's not working.
Thoughts?
Thanks.
chjade84 
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Posted: August 13, 2010 at 3:09 PM / IP Logged  
The purple starter wire is not getting any voltage - fuses are all good, truck starts with key still - no transponder IIRC (still won't remote start with key in ignition), 2000 xterra.
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Posted: August 13, 2010 at 5:26 PM / IP Logged  
Have you connected all the heavy gauge reds to a proper 12 volt constant feed?
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chjade84 
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Posted: August 13, 2010 at 6:39 PM / IP Logged  
Yes. Or at least I believe so. The green wire for the ignition, it read 12v with the keys out. I also have it set to 'automatic' instead of 'manual' for the transmission and have the neutral and hood latch wires grounded for the time being. I have the two starter wires apparently, the main one is attached to the violet 'starter' wire and the second I've set the remote start to use a second output for 'starter 2' (I assume this is what it's for). The 'wait to start' wire is not grounded as per the manual since this is not a diesel.
The ever helpful manual has only two solutions for my problem, blown fuses and that 'wait to start' wire grounded.
chjade84 
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Posted: August 13, 2010 at 7:10 PM / IP Logged  
Ok, I think I have a few things missing... I noticed all my fused large gauge wires are not connected... that can't be good. Here's my directions:
2000 nissan xterra, python 580 locks -- posted image.
2000 nissan xterra, python 580 locks -- posted image.
2000 nissan xterra, python 580 locks -- posted image.
As it's wired right now it's:
Red (+12v for the unit - different harness) -> Green ignition wire
Pink/White -> GREEN/ YELLOW
Violet -> BLACK / YELLOW
Orange -> RED / Yellow
Pink -> BLACK/ White
There are 4 wires I haven't used (presumably because I don't know where to put them):
RED / White
Red
Pink/Black
RED / Black
Any chance someone can tell me what goes where? I'm realizing how stupid I am right now, but that doesn't make me any more clever. ;)
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