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Posted: October 17, 2010 at 1:03 PM / IP Logged  
Hello Ladies & Gentleman,
I have a 2000 E-350 7.3L TurboDiesel Conversion-van and I want to install a great Car Alarm on it. It has the Factory Power Door Locks and the Cheap Alarm (That does not work).
I would like a good unit, a remote start if possible, a paging system if they have one with no monthly fees.
300-400.00 max
Thanks, Russ
2000 E350-SS-ExplorerExt-7.3LPSD-3:55LS-AutoMeterPhantomGuages-Pyro-Boost-Tranny+Hobbs-4"SSMagnaFlow 19"SharpLCD-DVD-KVHTrackVision-SAT/NAV-62Gallon/2Tanks-Kenwood9140-Alpine
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Posted: October 17, 2010 at 2:11 PM / IP Logged  
Is that installed price?
Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
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Posted: October 17, 2010 at 5:32 PM / IP Logged  
It's not important, I can spend more if need be, I just want a great system. Tell me the best for the money.
Thanks, Russ
2000 E350-SS-ExplorerExt-7.3LPSD-3:55LS-AutoMeterPhantomGuages-Pyro-Boost-Tranny+Hobbs-4"SSMagnaFlow 19"SharpLCD-DVD-KVHTrackVision-SAT/NAV-62Gallon/2Tanks-Kenwood9140-Alpine
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Posted: October 17, 2010 at 5:38 PM / IP Logged  
DEI, = Viper/Hornet/Avital/Clifford, Compustar, A/Vox/Prestige/Code, Autopage.
All premium brands, all should be installed by professionals.
You pay your money and take your choice.
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Posted: October 18, 2010 at 11:18 AM / IP Logged  
I happen to use Audiovox, but there are many good brands out there.
I'd say the most important thing to shop around for is a good install shop with a good reputation, that sounds like they know what they're talking about, and has a good warranty.
For $300-400 installed you should easily find a one-way starter/alarm combo, or maybe a two-way paging alarm.
A $400-installed 2-way alarm/starter combo is a little on the low side of pricing but not an impossibility. You might pay between $400 and $500.
The alarms with two-way remotes do not have a monthly fee, but you will need to be close to the car (within the range of the remote) to receive the page if the alarm is triggered.
Several companies offer extra-cost, monthly-fee setups where you can start, unlock, and sometimes track the location of the car with your cell phone or online.....but if that's not something you need, the regular 2-way remotes won't cost you anything to use.
Other tips:
1. Buying the product at one place and having another place do the install is usually neither economical nor convenient. Most shops charge extra to install equipment purchased elsewhere, and they'll charge you again if they have to remove/replace it for warranty issues.
Look for a place that sells both the product and the installation, someplace you can count on to guarantee both the product and install, hopefully for life.
2. If you decide to look on eBay, you'll see some no-name alarms from China that are inexpensive and have flashy-looking remotes. They usually don't work because they come with poor documentation and no tech support. I just removed one of them for a customer on Friday after a mechanic tried (and failed) to install it.
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Posted: October 22, 2010 at 8:03 PM / IP Logged  
Hello Friends,
I am thinking about installing the Viper 5902v system,
I can buy the unit for 288.00 and the I*nstaller wants 350.00.
Is this good for the labor? He said it's about 4 hours to do it right.
I don't think nhe has installed the Viper 5902 before as he only has one Viper 5901 in stock.
I really want a shop that has installed many of them.
2000 E350-SS-ExplorerExt-7.3LPSD-3:55LS-AutoMeterPhantomGuages-Pyro-Boost-Tranny+Hobbs-4"SSMagnaFlow 19"SharpLCD-DVD-KVHTrackVision-SAT/NAV-62Gallon/2Tanks-Kenwood9140-Alpine
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Posted: October 23, 2010 at 7:43 AM / IP Logged  
I can tell you I paid BestBuy in Wausau, Wi  $700.00 to insall a Viper 5301 in my wifes 2009 Corolla. That was for the remote start, bypass, relays, rear window defrost connection, trunk pop, & labor.  It was like 9 hours to do it.
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Posted: October 23, 2010 at 9:48 AM / IP Logged  
If your unsure about a person/shop.... don't go there. Chances are you trust your gut feeling about somewhere and go with your first instincts. If that installer thinks that they can properly install a remote start/alarm system into a diesel vehicle with independant door triggers with a system they are unfamiliar with.... I'd go somewhere else.
For me to do that vehicle with a system that I know inside and out would take me about 3-4 hours. Not to say that I set the standard on installation times for a certain vehicle, but if this installer doesn't know a system and not familiar with the vehicle, the 4 hour time frame is estimating quite low. If you do decide to go with this installer, make sure you ask him ....." What if it takes you 7 hours ? Will the rate still be the same ? "
Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
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Posted: October 28, 2010 at 7:49 PM / IP Logged  
Thank You for all the intelligent replies.
I have all the Ford Shop Manuals for my 2000 E-350 Van and it includes the 2 main Volumes and the Electrical Book and a Diesel Supplement Book, 4 Books in all. I will give the installer all 4 Books so he can look-up every wire location in minutes. It should help time-wise.
If the Viper 5902v system has the "Wait for Diesel Start" built into the unit, should I still supply the installer the DEI 528T Pulse Timer Relay?
And what other relays should I install? The Tilt for a tow truck?
Or the Two Front door window-roll-down relaty?
Any Help would be mighty kind.
Russ
2000 E350-SS-ExplorerExt-7.3LPSD-3:55LS-AutoMeterPhantomGuages-Pyro-Boost-Tranny+Hobbs-4"SSMagnaFlow 19"SharpLCD-DVD-KVHTrackVision-SAT/NAV-62Gallon/2Tanks-Kenwood9140-Alpine
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Posted: October 29, 2010 at 3:30 AM / IP Logged  
You won't need the 528t with that unit, 507M tilt module, up to you, 530T window closers, if done properly will add about 2.5 hours + labour to the job. So add that labour to the cost. Actually I find look -ups more of a hindrance, better to have the alarm manufacturer's info.
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