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2001 grand cherokee, viper 5101


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brynn2010 
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ok wow here it is i'm installing a 5101 viper remote start/keyless entry system and im having nothing but problems figuring ot out. here it goes i have everything working including light flash/horn/door locks and pretty much anything to do with that side of the system now the remote start is whole other situation i can not figure it out this is the first viper remote start i have done ive done many others so i am by far new at this here is how i have everything hooked up so far

H3 harness                                                       ignition harness

pink   +  ignition 1 in/output                                 + dk blue IGNITION

RED / white  +  fused ign 2/flex relay input                + pink/black CONSTANT 12V

orange   +  acc output                                           + RED / black  ACCESSORY

violet   +  starter output                                          +   yellow STARTER

red    +  fused ign 1 input                                        +   pink/black CONSTANT 12V

pink/white  +  ign 2/flex relay output                         +  BLACK/ orange 2nd ACCESSORY

pink/black  +  flex relay input (keyside)                         EMPTY

RED / black  +  fused acc/starter input                         +  red CONSTANT 12V

now i get nothing but hearing the relays click in the alarm module no dash lights nothing i have  sentry bypass wired in also tried putting another key in the igniition i also have all saftey features wired as in brake shutdown and hood what am i doing wrong i am pulling my hair out iif someone can please help me i would greatly appreciate it

thank you all Jake

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blanx218 
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Did you ground or connect thru a switch the BLACK/ white neutral safety wire?
brynn2010 
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yes i did
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brynn2010 
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does everything seem like its wired right
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buddholly 
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To perform shutdown diagnostics:
1. With the ignition OFF, press and hold the Valet/Program switch
2. Turn the ignition ON and then back OFF while holding the Valet/Program switch.
3. Release the Valet/Program switch
4. Press and release the Valet/Program switch. The LED flashes on the con­trol center to report the last shutdown for one minute or until the ignition is turned on.
LED Flashes Shutdown Mode
1 Runtime expired
2 Over-rev shutdown
3 Low or no RPM
4 Transmitter shutdown (or optional push button)
5 (+) Brake shutdown
6 (-) Hood shutdown
7 Timer mode/Turbo mode/Manual mode error *
8 Neutral safety shutdown
9 Low battery (voltage mode)
10 -------------------------------------------------------
11 Wait-to-start input timed out
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Wiring looks OK.   All wires should be verified with a Digital Multi Meter and then the connections should be soldered.

Any LED error flashes from the Viper?

You didn't mention anything about reservation mode, so assuming an auto trans.  Did you program the Viper to Automatic Transmission?

Did you connect the Neutral Safety wire and connect to chassis ground or the Parking Brake?  Is the Neutral Safety Switch ON? 

Did you connect a Tach wire?  If want to run  in Tach Mode you must change the Viper programming and then do a Tach Learn.

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brynn2010 
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yes to all of those things the only thing is i have to check the led flashes its so wierd i hear the relay clicking ion the module but nothing happens i dont understand it for the life of me
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brynn2010 
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one other thing i dont have the diagram in front of me i think its a blue/white wire it says in the installation guide that it needs a ground pulse to activate remote start and a constant ground after start for turbo timer does that  need to be grounded or what
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H1/10    WHITE/ BLUE(-)      REMOTE START/ TURBO TIMER ACTIVATION INPUT    ( Page 18 in install guide for more info. )

Not needed unless you have a turbo ( for turbo cool down ) or want to initiate a remote start from an aftermarket alarm system.  Typically you will use the Viper remotes to start the vehicle.  Just insulate this wire.

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brynn2010 
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Posted: March 05, 2011 at 11:06 AM / IP Logged  
im almost thinking the module is bad because i am getting nothing i even tried testing all the wires while hitting the button an no kind of ouput im wso lost help plese
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