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sydmoe 
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Need a little help. I hooked up a Ultrastart 1280 with RS232 to a Idatalink ADS AL CA and I can't seem to get the setup to crank. Programmed both the RS and Idatalink per instructions but when I push the remote start button I get the ignition engaging clicks and acc turns on but no cranking. Idatalink blinks green during the process then blinks red once after it fails to start. Then the LEDs on the antenna of the Ultrastart blink.
This is what I have hooked up
Idatalink RS232 to RS
RS direct to injector for tach signal
RS Yellow starter output wire to Idatalink blue (+) starter input wire
RS Blue output to activate vehicle ignition to WHITE/ Red and tapped pink Idatalink wire
RS both 12 volt main power Red wires direct to batt
Here is a video link so you can see what happens.
START VID
This happens with or without the key in the ignition. When I push the RS button its like it turns the ignition on but doesn't crank. It starts fine with the key.
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kreg357 
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Posted: April 11, 2011 at 2:00 PM / IP Logged  

Looks like 7 blinks on the U1280 antenna.  That means it did not Tach Learn.  That should happen automatically on the first key startup of the Durango after the 2 fuses are plugged in.

Try a Factory Reset on the U1280 and then start the Durango with  the key.  You should get 2 Parking Light flashes and 2 horn beeps to confirm a good Tach Learn.  I have found that the iDatalink Tach signal works fine with Ultra Start units and always use that.

Just so we don't overlook anything..  Was the ADS AL CA flashed with the correct CH5 firmware and programmed to Data Mode?  Did it program to the Durango properly?

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sydmoe 
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Posted: April 11, 2011 at 2:26 PM / IP Logged  
Thanks for the reply
It is flashed properly as far as I know - CH5 v2.1
When I do a reset and first start the car up it appears to do the tach learn fine. The LED on the RS flash repeatedly for about 8-10 secs and then I get a single flash on the LED and parking lights. I turn the key to off to exit tach learn and remove the key and push the RS button. I get the acc to turn on and the dash lights up like it is about to crank but that is as far as it goes. After 3 or 4 seconds like in the vid i posted it cancels and flashes the LED 7 times.
It does not chip the horn by the way. Only flashes the lights. The only time the horn chirps is if I press the RS lock button.
Mike M2 
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Bottom line is the Idatalink is turning red which is a sign of an issue with it. It is either incorrectly wired, programmed to the wrong data mode or has the wrong firmware. Did you set it to data mode?

Have you tried reset? Unplug the power cord, hold the button in, plug it in. The light will start flashing red, let go of the button. program unit to correct mode and to vehicle.

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kreg357 
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Posted: April 11, 2011 at 4:40 PM / IP Logged  

Another thought, again not to miss anything.  The iDatalink install guide doesn't show it and you didn't mention it but did you connect the U1280 Black ground wire to a good chassis ground point.

This info from the U1280 Install Guide:

To Tach/ Tachless Learn the system simply start the vehicle with the ignition key. To confirm that
a proper Tach signal has been programmed the system will chirp the Horn/ Siren and flash the
park lights two times. If the tach wire is not connected the park lights will flash and the horn will
chirp 4 times to indicate Tachless Mode. If the Tach is not learned when the start button is
pressed the park lights will flash 7 times.
***The system must be Tach Learned before remote starting***

Also the current version of CH5 is Ver 2.31.  I am not sure if the Type 3 install is different between the two versions.  I would flash the ADS AL CA with the latest firmware and go by the current install guide.  ( Download Install guide 1950 to see how earlier versions of CH5 were wired.  Big differences. )

The horn issue is normal on Chrysler products.  Unless you program the U1280 for the Long ( .5 sec ) horn blast, the car will only beep the horn on the Lock command.

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sydmoe 
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Posted: April 11, 2011 at 4:43 PM / IP Logged  
Mike M2 wrote:

Bottom line is the Idatalink is turning red which is a sign of an issue with it. It is either incorrectly wired, programmed to the wrong data mode or has the wrong firmware. Did you set it to data mode?

Have you tried reset? Unplug the power cord, hold the button in, plug it in. The light will start flashing red, let go of the button. program unit to correct mode and to vehicle.

done
sydmoe 
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Posted: April 11, 2011 at 4:46 PM / IP Logged  
Yep, I have a good ground hooked up to the 1280.
I don't have the cable to re-flash the unit but I will try to get that done tomorrow.
Thanks again fellas!
sydmoe 
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Posted: April 11, 2011 at 4:52 PM / IP Logged  
kreg357, you said earlier you have always had good luck with the Ultra Start getting the tach signal through the IDatalink so for the heck of it I disconnected my injector lead to the RS and did a factory rest of both the ADS and 1280. I then tried to see if it would pick up the tach signal through the ADS..... No worky. After the factory reset the RS will not learn the tach sig without the injector lead hooked up.
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Posted: April 11, 2011 at 6:43 PM / IP Logged  
I would try it connected directly from the U1280 Blue/White wire to the ADS AL CA PURPLE / White Tach Output wire.  I'm not sure if the U1280 is iDatalink 2 way capable and that is one of the Red two way outputs.  ( I always go W2W, never fails...)
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sydmoe 
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Posted: April 11, 2011 at 9:02 PM / IP Logged  
I had the 1280 blue/white wired directly to a injector. I did not have the ADS PURPLE / white Tach wire hooked up to anything. Should it be tapped into the previously mentioned connection?
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