2010 tundra, viper 5301

Okay, 2010 tundra with factory alarm, Looking to install a viper 5301 remote start only...I think I have figured it out....Could someone look it over and verify that I have this correct.H1/1 Not connectedH1/2 +12 V ConstantH1/3 To truck horn White 24 pin plug (pin 11)H1/4 Not connectedH1/5 Chassis GroundH1/6 Not connectedH1/7 Not connectedH1/8 < color=#ff0000>???????????????? < color=#ff0000>(see notes)H1/9 Not connectedH1/10 Not connectedH1/11 DB Pin 18 and J4 Pin 23H1/12 Not connectedDoor lock 3-pin Connector1 Blue ....NJ2 pin 62 Empty...Blank3 Green...NJ2 pin 7H2/1 < color=red>< color=#ff0000>?????????????? < color=#ff0000>(see notes)H2/2 Not connectedH2/3 < color=red>< color=#ff0000>?????????????? < color=#ff0000>(see notes)H2/4 Not connectedH2/5 Not connectedH2/6 Not connectedH2/7 Not connectedH2/8 Not connectedH2/9 OBD Pin 9H2/10 Keysense (gray) and pkall (blue/white)H2/11 Not connectedH2/12 Not connectedH2/13 Not connectedH2/14 Not connectedH2/15 Hood switchH2/16 Not connectedH2/17 Switch @ Brake pedal (orange)H2/18 GroundH3/1 J9 pin 1H3/2 +12 V ConstantH3/3 J9 pin 2H3/4 J9 pin 7H3/5 +12 V ConstantH3/6 J9 pin 6H3/7 Not connectedH3/8 +12 V Constant< color=red>< color=#ff0000>Note 1< color=#ff0000>...Door trigger input...can I connect just the drivers door or do I have to connect all 4 doors like mentioned in the 5901 alarm/remote start install?< color=#ff0000>< color=#ff0000>Note 2< color=#ff0000>...which one do I use...The Factory alarm disarm output < color=#ff0000>OR< color=#ff0000> Factory alarm arm output to pin 86 on Auto Headlight relay

A few corrections.  Always verify all wires with a DMM....

H1/1  RED / WHITE  (-) TRUNK RELEASE       

H1/2  RED  (+)12v CONSTANT INPUT                             +12V constant    Black @ Dash Fuse Box 140AH1/3  BROWN  (-) HORN OUTPUT                                    Violet wire @ White 24 Pin plug PIN 1

H1/4  WHITE/ BROWN  LIGHT FLASH PIN 87aH1/5  BLACK  (-) CHASSIS GROUND                                 Chassis GorundH1/6  VIOLET  (+) DOOR TRIGGER INPUT*                      NA - use (-) door triggerH1/7  BLUE  (-) FACTORY HORN INPUTH1/8  GREEN  (-) DOOR TRIGGER INPUT*                      BROWN (-) @ BODY ECU, (WHITE, 26-Pin Plug) Pin 24H1/9  BLACK/ WHITE  (-) DOME LIGHT OUTPUTH1/10  WHITE/ BLUE  (-) REMOTE STARTH1/11  WHITE  PARKING LIGHT OUTPUT                        Tan @ Headlight Switch  ***Set Viper Fuse/Jumper to (-)

H1/12 ORANGE  (-)GROUND WHEN ARMED OUTPUT

H2/1 LIGHT GREEN/ BLACK (-) ALARM DISARM                            Pink wire @ DKP  Blue 17 Pin Plug Pin 16          *** Set Viper for  Double (-) Pulse

H2/2 ORANGE / BLACK (-) 200mA AUX 4 OUTPUTH2/3 GREEN / WHITE (-) 200mA OEM ALARM ARM H2/4 VIOLET/BLACK (-) 200mA AUX 2 OUTPUTH2/5 WHITE/ BLACK (-) 200mA AUX 3 OUTPUTH2/6 WHITE/ VIOLET (-) 200mA AUX 1 OUTPUTH2/7 GREY/BLACK (-) WAIT TO START INPUTH2/8 BROWN / BLACK (-) HORN HONK OUTPUTH2/9 VIOLET/WHITE TACHOMETER INPUT                                         Black wire @ OBD Pin 9 H2/10 DARK BLUE (-) 200mA STATUS OUTPUT                                PKALL GWR

H2/11 PINK/WHITE (-) FLEX RELAY CONTROL OUTPUTH2/12 ORANGE (-) 200mA ACCESSORY OUTPUTH2/13 PURPLE (-) 200mA STARTER OUTPUTH2/14 PINK (-) 200mA IGNITION 1 OUTPUTH2/15 GREY (-) HOOD PIN INPUT (N/C OR N/O)                               Hood Pin SwitchH2/16 BLUE/WHITE (-) 200mA 2ND STATUS                                     Light Green Keysense  *** Viper default 2nd Status

H2/17 BROWN (+) BRAKE SHUTDOWN INPUT                                Tan wire @ Brake Pedal Switch

H2/18 BLACK/ WHITE (-) NEUTRAL SAFETY INPUT                          Chassis ground              *** if Auto Trans

H3/1  PINK  IGNITION 1                                                       Black @ Ignition harness

H3/2  RED / WHITE  (+) FUSED (30A)                                Black @ Dash Fuse Box  140AH3/3  ORANGE  ACCESSORY OUTPUT                         Gray @ Ignition harnessH3/4  VIOLET  STARTER OUTPUT                                   Green @ Ignition harnessH3/5  RED  (+) FUSED (30A)                                              Black @ Dash Fuse Box  140AH3/6  PINK/WHITE  (+) IGNITION 2                                    Light Green @ Ignition harness  *** Viper default = IGN2H3/7  PINK/BLACK  FLEX RELAY INPUT 87A                  N/CH3/8  RED / BLACK  (+) FUSED (30A)                                 Black @ Dash Fuse Box  140A

*Door trigger input is needed if one of the following are used: MTS, passive arming, auto re-locking, door ajar error honk or Smart Key control.

*Factory Alarm Disarm (test at driver door key cylinder)  double - pulse     Pink wire driver kick panel, blue 17 pin plug, pin 16

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Thanks Kreg...few more questions...

on H1/11...you stated Tan @ Headlight Switch ***Set Viper Fuse/Jumper to (-), but On a different forum a member wleeb used DB pin 18(head lights) and J4 pin 23 (parking)...Whats the difference there?

Also on H2 the arm and disarm wires...Wleeb used the Alarm Arm...Just wondering whats the reason to use the Alarm Disarm?

Also on H2/16 what is the reason putting my keysense on there rather than on H2/10...both say -200 ma status?

Again...Thanks alot!!! I hope to have it installed this weekend.

As you are noticing there are many ways to accomplish the goal.  In the case of the Viper controlling the vehicles Parking Lights, there are wires that can be used with a (+) signal and other wires that need a (-) signal.  I usually try to use the most convenient (-) wire.  The Viper has an internal Fuse/Jumper that selects which type output its' White wire will have.  Most remote starter systems only use the Parking Lights ( for command confirmation and while the vehicle is remote started ).

If your Tundra has a factory alarm, you will want the Viper to be able to turn it off.  Usually necessary prior to a remote start and an unlock command. 

You can use the H2/10 Blue (-) Status Output for both vehicle wires but you must diode isolate the keysense wire ( band towards the Viper https://www.the12volt.com/diodes/diodes.asp ).  This prevents the normal startup ( inserting key into ignition ) from supplying a (-) signal to back to the PKALL and making it think a remote start is about to happen ( and to do it's transponder bypass thing ).  As long as you are not using it for the Defroster, using the extra (-) 2nd Status wire does the isolation for you.

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Thanks Kreg...I got everything sorted out and made as much soldering connections on the bench before installing this weekend... I triple checked the diagrams to make sure...and taped up the unused wires as to not get them mixed up. The only question I have right now is the is on the Viper sytem they have to options...-200ma factory alarm disarm and -200ma factory alarm arm...I looked on the DMM sheets and it states Blue 17 pin plug pin #16 which is the same as you mentioned above...but Some people went to pin 86 on the AUTO H/L interrupt relay...just wondering if it is nessary for that or what is the reason before I get down into it. Thanks again...Lance

Haven't done a 2010 Tundra, so hopefully someone who has can chime in.  Here is additional info from the usual sources.

Bulldog:

FACTORY ALARM DISARM   PINK to BLACK (-) (Requires Double Pulse), NOTE #2  in DRIVERS KICK PANEL, (BLUE, 17-Pin Plug) Pin 16 NOTE #2: TEST this wire while turning the Key in the Drivers Door, this wire will also Unlock the Doors.

AudioVox

Alarm Disarm         BLACK & PINK  (-)        MAIN BODY ECU USE BOTH WIRES, TEST THESE WIRES WHILE TURNING THE KEY IN THE DRIVER DOOR CYLINDER, DOUBLE PULSE WILL UNLOCK ALL DOORS

DEI

Factory Alarm Disarm  pink (driver door key cylinder)  double (-)  driver kick, blue 17 pin plug, pin 16

Should be easy enough to test.  DMM set to 20 VDC, Red lead on +12V constant, Black lead on suspect wire.

Turn the key in the drivers door cylinder.  Meter should go to +12v with disarm.

Not positive, but the "Auto H/L relay" sounds like they are disabling the Auto HeadLight feature during remote

start.  On vehicles with auto headlights, if you leave the switch in that position, when you remote start the vehicle after dark, the headlights will come on and the R/S will turn on the Parking Lights...

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You don't want to use the pink wire in the DKP for disarm as it will also unlock the drivers door. To disarm the factory alarm all you need do is connect the keysense wire as kreg states above to the staus output wire on the Viper. This will disarm and keep the doors locked...Mike M2

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Okay...got it installed...the good thing is the door lock and unlock buttons work...the bad news is the remote start does nothing...I press it and and my key fob makes a buzzing noise then my lights flash on and off...about 7 times....I've read that you have to have it in automatic mode...tried to program that a few times...Not sure if It took it or not....I also tried to put my key in the ignititon...then tried to remote start...turned the key on...then tried remote start...then turned it to acc and tried to remote start....no luck with that...Thanks in advance...I hope its an easy fix.

Seven flashes means the Viper is still in Manual Trans Mode.  See page two of this guide :  https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/file.asp?ID=711  Keep trying.......   Soldering is fun!

Still no luck....I have been over and over with the automatic setting procedure...it seems like it is taking it but I still get the same 7 flashes....Also....My truck has the immobilizer on it...but my key just has a dot on it...no G key....I called up expresskit...and they have two ways to wire up the immobilizer....one is connection 7 on page 8 and the other is on this link..

http://www.xpresskit.com/Documents.aspx?productid=196

..I had it connected as per the link because it pretty much was the same way as the xk05...I'll try to wire it up the other way....The only thing is....where is the wires for the Tx and Rx?...It says its a black pin....connection 4 and 5...