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bokibgd 
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Posted: December 05, 2011 at 6:58 PM / IP Logged  
Hi everyone,
Couple days ago I am installed 2 way autostart on my car. Everything works fine except one thing.
I cannot to figure out how to set my keyless entry system. My wiring diagram says that I have one wire system (-) and for lock I need to use a negative with 4.7k Ohm Resistor, and for unlock same wire.
So what I did. From my remote start module I found two wires based on installation manual (one for unlock and another one for lock). On the wire for lock somewhere in the middle of wire I am solder 4.7K Ohm resistor and merged with only one wire on my car for door lock/unlock based on my wiring diagram from this website (WHITE/ blue wire). Another wire for unlock merged to same WHITE/ blue wire. Now, what's happened. When I press the button on my remote for unlock, works fine, but when I tried to lock - nothing.
Can anyone help me with this, please??
Do I need relay maybe?
Thanks everyone in advance, and sorry for my bad english.
My car: Mazda Protege 1998
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Posted: December 05, 2011 at 7:26 PM / IP Logged  

Not sure what brand / model remote start you have, but it sounds like it does not have built in

door lock relays.  Its' Lock and Unlock output is probably a 200mA (-) pulse.

Here is a diagram of Bulldog Security's recommendation for the install wiring :

http://www.bulldogsecurity.com/diagrams/extrainfo/diagrams/14301_PROTEGE_MAZDA%20PROTEGE%201%20WIRE%20JBS%20UNITS.pdf 
The top diagram would be correct for your application.  The relays are standard 30/40 Amp SPDT
( Bosch ) relays.

And your English is very good.  problem with keyless entry -- posted image.

Soldering is fun!
tedmond 
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Posted: December 05, 2011 at 8:22 PM / IP Logged  
sounds like a current issue, what kregs suggested should fix your problem.
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bokibgd 
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Posted: December 06, 2011 at 2:29 AM / IP Logged  
Thanks a lot guys.
I'll try this on next two days. I hope that will work.
I thought that inside of this system has already installed the relay for lock/unlock doors. But maybe that relay is not enough for my car.
Remote start system: SPY 2 Two Way LCD Car Alarm (V2)
howie ll 
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Posted: December 06, 2011 at 7:36 AM / IP Logged  
2 relays, use this diagram:- multiplex_via_relays.bmp
Note the 1N4004 diodes, please use them.
howie ll 
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Posted: December 06, 2011 at 7:38 AM / IP Logged  
Note it bleeding ain't Kreg and I obviously can't read either, I just went to the trouble of doing a diagram for our poster then read your post again!
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P.S. I think mine's more easy to read (slightly) and they didn't include the protection diodes, joking aside NEVER do a DEI without.
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Posted: December 06, 2011 at 7:41 AM / IP Logged  
use a dmm and check those outputs from the unit.
if they have built in relays, seeif you have it wired up correctly.
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howie ll 
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Posted: December 06, 2011 at 7:50 AM / IP Logged  
How many lock wires, 2 or 6 and if 6 please list the colours and functions according to alarm manufacturer. This isn't one of these Chinese $20 products is it by any chance, at which point Tedmund and I will sigh in exasperation and as one say "bin it". problem with keyless entry -- posted image.
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Posted: December 06, 2011 at 4:13 PM / IP Logged  
howie ll wrote:
This isn't one of these Chinese $20 products is it by any chance, at which point Tedmund and I will sigh in exasperation and as one say "bin it". problem with keyless entry -- posted image.
I approve problem with keyless entry -- posted image.
Ted
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Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries
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