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angelhost 
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Question 1: I've installed the car alarm. (Prostar Gold) To lock and unlock the doors Prostar Gold alarm is using the (-) output. The car is using (+) I've used two relays... one for lock (without resistor), and one for unlock (2000 ohm resistor). So, they work fine. But I have problem with turning "on" and "off" the alarm. It has (+) input for arming and disarming original car alarm. When I connect same cables, which I'm using for lock/unlock to original car alarm disarm/arm cable, turning off the alarm works fine, but it is doesn't turn the alarm "on" and impossible to unlock the doors using the regular key. Looks like the door lock engine always under the voltage. How to connect everything correct?
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Looks like some more relays...

Here is some info from DEI :

Factory Alarm Arm Light GREEN/ Orange  (+)     Connector C4, Pin 4 @ BCM  
Factory Alarm Disarm        same wire

Arm is positive trigger thru a 1800 ohm resistor, disarm is positive thru a 750 ohm resistor. Must use relays.

The BCM is attached to the fuse/relay box at the end of the dash on the driver side. Connector C4 is a 26 pin plug on the

bottom edge of the BCM.

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Hasn't this question come up recently?
This vehicle being the only one with POS lock triggers?
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Yes, one of the more unique vehicles to deal with.  Sedan, coupe and convertible all slightly different.
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angelhost 
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Hi!
The problem is: I'm using 2 Relays for lock and unlock the doors, when I unplugging these relays from doors lock/unlock cable and connecting to OEM alarm arm/disarm cable, the alarm is arming and disarming. So what can I do? Should I use 4 relays? (2 for lock/unlock and 2 for arm/disarm) or may be exist any more simple way?
My alarm diagram:
2002 sebring conv security system. -- posted image.
And one more question... where I have to connect blue cable from bypass module?
howie ll 
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Kregg gave you the answer.
Pink wire aux 3 "Ground When Running", lower right in the picture.
Looking at that diagram you've two sets of lock/unlock outputs, you will only need relays on the bottom two, the top pair say "10amps".
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Doesn't connecting to the pair Kregg listed give you lock/unlock as well as arm/disarm?
Sure I've done it that way on a Ram.
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howie ll wrote:
Kregg gave you the answer.
Pink wire aux 3 "Ground When Running", lower right in the picture.
Not Gray cable in "6P" wire Connector? (Should I connect it to ORANGE wire of the Bypass module?
2002 sebring conv security system. -- posted image.
howie ll wrote:
Looking at that diagram you've two sets of lock/unlock outputs, you will only need relays on the bottom two, the top pair say "10amps".
Yes! But I have to use this pair of wires for two purposes: 1: Lock/Unlock. 2: Arm/Disarm. I can use them for 1 puprose or for second, but not for both. They don't work correctly. This is my main problem. I can use 4 Relays, but may be easier way?
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howie ll wrote:
Doesn't connecting to the pair Kregg listed give you lock/unlock as well as arm/disarm?
Sure I've done it that way on a Ram.
They won't work correctly. (My first message.)
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No, you're looking for a ground when running (pink)and it goes to the blue on the by-pass.
The method I used on the RAM, I went to factory arm and disarm rather than lock/unlock, set fro double pulse lock and unlock.
I ignored the lock unlock wires.
Mind you being a Prostart and it mentions engine oil pressure switch for tach I wouldn't go near that product.
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