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2012 infiniti g37x, viper 5501


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Posted: August 06, 2012 at 12:02 AM / IP Logged  
I was able to find the wire colors from http://www.bulldogsecurity.com, but will meter everything before making the connections. I have a Viper 5501 that will be going into my car. That being said I have a few questions...
Bulldogsecurity says that Ignition 1 requires a positive trigger and ignition 2 requires a negative trigger. The Viper installation manual says "Ignition 1" is a negative trigger and "Ignition 2" is a positive trigger. Does it matter if I hook up "ignition 2" from the Viper to "ignition 1" of the car and "Ignition 1" from the Viper to "ignition 2" of the car? The Viper signals both ignition 1 and ignition 2 at the same time during the remote start process, right?
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Posted: August 06, 2012 at 5:27 AM / IP Logged  

You didn't mention anything about a transponder bypass module.  The easiest way

to do this car is with the Fortin EVO-ALL ( or EVO-CAN ) module.  It will eliminate
many wires and connections at the BCM.  You could re-flash the EVO-ALL with the D2D
( DBI ) firmware for a D2D connection to the Viper but going W2W with the factory
flashed firmware will work well, too.  Here is a link to the Fortin EVO-ALL install
guide ( see Connection 5 )  :  https://ifar.ca/download/4211/preview.html

The Fortin install guide shows all the necessary connections except Parking Lights,

Horn ( if desired ) and the Viper's required Neutral Safety input.

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Posted: August 06, 2012 at 6:00 AM / IP Logged  
Sorry about that...already have an xpresskit db-all.
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Posted: August 06, 2012 at 6:56 PM / IP Logged  

My apologies are in order, too.  Don't even look at the EVO-ALL install guide,

it will depress you when you compare it to the DB-ALL install wiring.  2012 infiniti g37x, viper 5501 -- posted image.

The DB-ALL must be flashed ( via XKLoader2 ) with the correct ( 401.NISS03 v2.00 )

firmware.  Follow the Type 1 install diagram.  It lists all the necessary connections.

You will need these Viper outputs for the ignition, as shown on Page 5 of the install guide :

Ignition 1 (+)             H3/1 Pink    Thick wire
Starter (+)      H3/4 Violet    Thick wire
Starter (-)       Violet (-) 200mA Starter Output - Thin wire
Ignition (-)      Pink (-) 200mA Ignition 1 Output - Thin wire
Accessory 1 (+)        H3/3 Orange    Thick wire
Accessory 2 (+)        H3/6 Pink/White    Thick wire    ***Programmed for ACC2  
   (if necessary for A/C operation during R/S)

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Posted: August 14, 2012 at 12:55 PM / IP Logged  
Thanks! Thats kinda how I thought, but just wanted to make sure.
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Posted: October 26, 2012 at 5:55 PM / IP Logged  
I hate to revive this from the dead, but I have everything hooked up and have two issues.
1) Door UNLOCK and trunk pop is delayed by about 5 seconds, but LOCK is instant. When the doors do unlock, the disarm is working.
2) After I try to remote start the car from the Viper remote, the start instantly fails and says REMOTE START ERROR and flashes the parking lights 8 times. I looked in the shut down diagnostics section and it says this is because neutral safety shut down. I am using the XpressKit DB-ALL, the other functions (unlock, lock, factory arm/disarm, trunk, headlights, ignition status) work...Shouldn't the DB-ALL communicate the Neutral Safety Switch position to the Viper 5501 over D2D or do I have to plug in the neutral safety wire to the Viper brain and ground the wire?
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Posted: October 26, 2012 at 6:35 PM / IP Logged  
You need to plug in the NSS switch. A few years back they changed them. There is no need to ground the switch, just plug it in and set it correctly.
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Posted: October 26, 2012 at 7:02 PM / IP Logged  
The NSS switch is plugged in and "On". I'll unplug the wired neutral safety switch and try it again.
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Posted: October 27, 2012 at 2:15 PM / IP Logged  
Still nothing. No matter what I do, I get an error on the remote after starting and 8 parking light flashes. Even with the dball disconnected. Any ideas anyone? The viper was a factory refurbished from eBay, so having a hosed brain is not out of the question.
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Posted: October 27, 2012 at 6:45 PM / IP Logged  
Verify that the Vipers' BLACK/ WHITE (-) NEUTRAL SAFETY SWITCH INPUT wire is connected to a good
chassis ground source.
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