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super03duty 
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Hello everyone.  Im new to the page and was wondering if i may be able to find some specific installtion schematics.

I have an Autopage RS900 and I want to put it in my 2003 Ford F350 7.3L diesel. I have been thru the instruction manuall for hours multiple times and cross referencing to a schematic for my truck that i got off here.  What im looking for is a very simple break down for my specific system to my specific truck.

Example: The pink wire of the system goes to the green wire at the brake switch.  Or maybe something close. I really want to do this myself but i look at this system and its quite intimidating.  My truck does not have a keyless entry now.  I guess that matters for the door locks.

Please Any help is appreciated!!!

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Below are several sources for wiring info for your truck.

Here is a link to Bulldog Security :  http://www.bulldogsecurity.com/bdnew/vehiclewiringdiagrams.asp
Here is a link to Ready Remote :  http://www.readyremote.com/main.asp?make=Ford&model=F350
Here is a link to AudioVox :  http://techservices.audiovox.com/AccessRequest.aspx  Sign-up & info is free.

You will probably notice discrepancies between them.  That is why it is always best to use a Digital

Multi Meter to verify everything.

While there are some forum members that are familiar with your AutoPage system, I am not.  Their

WEB site does not list the RS900 system, the closest is the C3-RS915LCD.  Not sure if that is similar
to your RS900.  It does appear that AutoPage gives a fairly in-depth, detailed description of each wire
and its' purpose.

A few things to point out...

Your will need two 30/40 Amp SPDT relays to make the necessary connections to the trucks power
door locks.  An easier way is to obtain a DEI 451M door lock module ( ~$7 - $10 ).  The 451M install
guide is available in the Downloads section.

While it probably doesn't, your truck might have a transponder based ignition immobilizer system. 

The easy test is to get a $1.99 duplicate plain metal key made at the local hardware store and see if it
starts & runs the truck.

Diesels are a bit different for a R/S install.  First there is the Diesel Wait to Start issue and then there

is the Tach Signal issue.  Below are two notes from Bulldog Security :

NOTE #4: The DIESEL TACH wire is a GREEN / WHITE wire, located in a 5-pin harness held up

with tape behind the parking brake release.

NOTE #5: For WAIT TO START LIGHT, do not use the wire in the vehicle, use the 5,10,15 or 20

 Second PROGRAMMABLE Wait To Start Timer on the Remote Starter

Here is a note from DEI on the Tach :

On diesel vehicles the tach wire is GREEN / WHITE in a 5 wire harness held up with white tape behind the

parking brake release. The tach wire on these vehicles may generate an unclean signal. Options maybe
to set the threshold jumper to “on/low“ when programming tach in some Directed remote systems or use
part number 454T tach signal generator.

Here is DEI info on the Wait to Start :

Wait to start  see Tech Doc 1091 ( Here is a link to this Tech Tip found in the Downloads section :

https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/file.asp?ID=1016 )

On the remote start, make sure to program the Accessory State During Wait To Start to ON.

It would make things easier for forum members to assist you, if you would take the time to list your

AutoPage RS900 harnesses, Pin #, Wire color / description so that we could easily cut & paste a response.
Example below :
6 Pin Heavy Gauge Harness
Red: Remote Start Power 1
Red: Remote Start Power 2
Violet: Starter (+) Output
Pink: Ignition 2 (+) Output
Yellow: Ignition 1 (+) Output
Brown: Acc/Heater (+) Output

Soldering is fun!
super03duty 
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http://www.autopageusa.com/resources/RS-900%20Install%20-0702011.pdf

That is the link for the Installation manual. 

DEI 451?  Where can i get these.   

And no i dont have a transponder key I already made and extra key a while back and works great. 

Why is it that the wait to start light doesnt work.  Ive heard this before.  just after 02.  anything before that works fine.  I have a good bit of electrical experience and it seems to me if you connect to the light the polarity would have to be reverse?  Once the light is on it would be powering the system, but you would want the opposite?  You would want the signal to go to the system once the light shuts off.  I dont want a 30 sec timer year round.  my light only stays on for about 15 seconds anyway.  Is there a certain module or resistor that I can install?

super03duty 
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The doc 1091 just says they use that when you cant access the wait to start wire.  I know which one it is and where to find it. Would there be any negative issues if I tried it?
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No transponder is good.  Saves time and money.

The DEI 451M module is available many places ( Amazon, EBay and various online stores ).  Do an internet search on

"but Directed 451M".  Prices range from $6 and up.  It is even available at BestBuy for slightly more ( $10 ).

Can't say for sure on a F350, but some vehicles use Data instead of the typical +12V or Ground signal for instrument

panel control.  If you have access to factory wiring diagrams, you might give it a try.

Another note on the ignition wires :

From Installer- The BLACK/ GREEN Accessory wire must be powered for diesel applications .

Soldering is fun!
super03duty 
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< size=3 face=Calibri>SYSTEM WIRES

< size=3 face=Calibri>PIN# < size=3 face=Calibri>TRUCK WIRE < size=3 face=Calibri>LOCATION
< size=3 face=Calibri>H10. 20 PIN CONNECTOR < size=3 face=Calibri> < size=3 face=Calibri> < size=3 face=Calibri>
< size=3 face=Calibri>Black / White Wire: (-) Neutral Safety Switc h Input < size=3 face=Calibri>H1 < size=3 face=Calibri>GROUND < size=3 face=Calibri>
< size=3 face=Calibri>Black / Violet Wire: (-) 200 mA Channel 6 Programmable Output < size=3 face=Calibri>H2 < size=3 face=Calibri>NOT USED < size=3 face=Calibri>
< size=3 face=Calibri>Pink Wire: 2-Step Unlock /Factory Disarm /Sensor By-pass < size=3 face=Calibri>H3 < size=3 face=Calibri>PINK/LTGREEN < size=3 face=Calibri>KICK PANEL
< size=3 face=Calibri>White Wire: (-) 200mA Dome Light Control Output < size=3 face=Calibri>H4 < size=3 face=Calibri>BLK/LT BLUE < size=3 face=Calibri>PASS KICK PANEL
< size=3 face=Calibri>Black / Red Wire: (-) 200 mA Channel 5 Programmable Output < size=3 face=Calibri>H5 < size=3 face=Calibri>NOT USED < size=3 face=Calibri>
< size=3 face=Calibri>Bl ack / Green Wire: ( -) 20 0mA Chann el 4 Programmable Output < size=3 face=Calibri>H6 < size=3 face=Calibri>NOT USED < size=3 face=Calibri>
< size=3 face=Calibri>Gray Wire: (-) 200mA Channel 2 (Trunk) Output < size=3 face=Calibri>H7 < size=3 face=Calibri>NOT USED < size=3 face=Calibri>
< size=3 face=Calibri>Brown / White Wire: (-) 200mA Horn Output (P rogrammable) < size=3 face=Calibri>H8 < size=3 face=Calibri>BLUE < size=3 face=Calibri>STEERING COLUMN
< size=3 face=Calibri>Yellow Wire: (-) 200mA Ig nition 3 Control Output < size=3 face=Calibri>H9 < size=3 face=Calibri>NOT USED < size=3 face=Calibri>
< size=3 face=Calibri>Blue / Black Wire: (-) 200mA Accessory 2 Control Output < size=3 face=Calibri>H10 < size=3 face=Calibri>BLUE/LT GREEN < size=3 face=Calibri>IGNITION HARNESS
< size=3 face=Calibri>Blue Wire:(-) Zone 2 Negative Hood/Trunk trigger < size=3 face=Calibri>H20 < size=3 face=Calibri> < size=3 face=Calibri>HOOD SWITCH
< size=3 face=Calibri>White / Green Wire: (-) Diesel Wait-To-Start Input < size=3 face=Calibri>H19 < size=3 face=Calibri>VLT/OR-WT/LTGN < size=3 face=Calibri>
< size=3 face=Calibri>White / Blue Wire: (-) Instant Start and Turn Off Input < size=3 face=Calibri>H18 < size=3 face=Calibri> < size=3 face=Calibri>
< size=3 face=Calibri>Green Wire : Zone 3 (-) Negative Door Pin Trigger < size=3 face=Calibri>H17 < size=3 face=Calibri>NOT USED < size=3 face=Calibri>
< size=3 face=Calibri>Violet Wire: Zone 3 (+) Positive Door Trigger < size=3 face=Calibri>H16 < size=3 face=Calibri>BLK/BLUE (+) < size=3 face=Calibri>KICK PANEL
< size=3 face=Calibri>White / Red Wire: Tachometer Signal Input < size=3 face=Calibri>H15 < size=3 face=Calibri>WHT/PINK (-) < size=3 face=Calibri>BCM
< size=3 face=Calibri>White / Black Wire: (-) Negative Hood Pin Safety Shut Down < size=3 face=Calibri>H14 < size=3 face=Calibri> < size=3 face=Calibri>HOOD SWITCH
< size=3 face=Calibri>White / Violet Wire: (+) Brake Switch Shut Down Input < size=3 face=Calibri>H13 < size=3 face=Calibri>LT GREEN (+) < size=3 face=Calibri>BRAKE SWITCH
< size=3 face=Calibri>Orange Wire: (-) 500mA Grounded Output When Armed < size=3 face=Calibri>H12 < size=3 face=Calibri>NOT USED < size=3 face=Calibri>
< size=3 face=Calibri>Orange / White Wire: ( -) 20 0mA Grounded Output When Disar med < size=3 face=Calibri>H11 < size=3 face=Calibri>NOT USED < size=3 face=Calibri>
< size=3 face=Calibri> < size=3 face=Calibri> < size=3 face=Calibri> < size=3 face=Calibri>
< size=3 face=Calibri>H1 6 PIN HEAVY GAUGE WIRE HARNESS < size=3 face=Calibri> < size=3 face=Calibri> < size=3 face=Calibri>
< size=3 face=Calibri>Red: Remote Start Power 1 < size=3 face=Calibri> < size=3 face=Calibri>YELLOW < size=3 face=Calibri>IGNITION HARNESS
< size=3 face=Calibri>Red: Remote Start Power 2 < size=3 face=Calibri> < size=3 face=Calibri>GREEN/ VIOLET < size=3 face=Calibri>IGNITION HARNESS
< size=3 face=Calibri>Violet: Starter (+) Output < size=3 face=Calibri> < size=3 face=Calibri>GREEN (12V START ONLY) < size=3 face=Calibri>IGNITION HARNESS
< size=3 face=Calibri>Pink: Ignition 2 (+) Output < size=3 face=Calibri> < size=3 face=Calibri>RD/BLK (12V ON) < size=3 face=Calibri>IGNITION HARNESS
< size=3 face=Calibri>Yellow: Ignition 1 (+) Output < size=3 face=Calibri> < size=3 face=Calibri>RD/LT GRN - WHT / YELLOW (12V ON) < size=3 face=Calibri>IGNITION HARNESS
< size=3 face=Calibri>Brown: Acc/Heater (+) Output < size=3 face=Calibri> < size=3 face=Calibri>GRAY / YELLOW (12V ACC) < size=3 face=Calibri>IGNITION HARNESS
< size=3 face=Calibri> < size=3 face=Calibri> < size=3 face=Calibri> < size=3 face=Calibri>
< size=3 face=Calibri>H2 5 PIN WIRE HARNESS < size=3 face=Calibri> < size=3 face=Calibri> < size=3 face=Calibri>
< size=3 face=Calibri>RED / White: Parking Light Relay Power Input < size=3 face=Calibri> < size=3 face=Calibri> < size=3 face=Calibri>
< size=3 face=Calibri>White: Parking Light Relay Output < size=3 face=Calibri> < size=3 face=Calibri> < size=3 face=Calibri>
< size=3 face=Calibri>Black: System Main Ground (-) < size=3 face=Calibri> < size=3 face=Calibri>GROUND < size=3 face=Calibri>
< size=3 face=Calibri>Brown: Siren (+) Output < size=3 face=Calibri> < size=3 face=Calibri>TO THE SIREN < size=3 face=Calibri>
< size=3 face=Calibri>Red: 12v + Battery Power < size=3 face=Calibri> < size=3 face=Calibri>CONS 12V

THIS IS WHAT I HAVE SO FAR.  PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF I AM WRONG ON ANYTHING AND IF YOU SEE A EMPTY SPOT PLEASE FILL ME IN. 

THIS IS JUST A SPREAD SHEET I MADE TONIGHT COMPARING THE INSTALL MANUAL AND WIRING DIAGRAM OFF THIS SITE AND ANOTHER ONE.

super03duty 
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well that didnt work like i wanted.
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How's this?

H1

Red: Remote Start Power 1
Red: Remote Start Power 2
Violet: Starter (+) Output
Pink: Ignition 2 (+) Output
Yellow: Ignition 1 (+) Output
Brown: Acc/Heater (+) Output

H2

RED / White: Parking Light Relay Power Input
Red: 12v + Battery Power
Brown: Siren (+) Output
Black: System Main Ground (-)
White: Parking Light Relay Output

H7

1. Blue Wire  ( - ) Lock Pulse        1N4001 w/band towards RS900 to 451M
       ( + ) Unlock Pulse
3. Green Wire  ( - ) Unlock Pulse  1N4001 w/band towards RS900 to 451M
          (+) Lock Pulse

H8

Gray / Black Wire: ( -) 200mA Starter 2 Output
Brown / Black Wire: (- ) 500mA Grounded Output When Running

H10

1. Black / White Wire: (-) Neutral Safety Switch Input
2. Black / Violet Wire: (-) 200 mA Channel 6 Programmable Output
3. Pink Wire: 2-Step Unlock /Factory Disarm /Sensor By-pass
4. White Wire: (-) 200mA Dome Light Control Output
5. Black / Red Wire: (-) 200 mA Channel 5 Programmable Output
6. Black / Green Wire: ( -) 20 0mA Channel 4 Programmable Output
7. Gray Wire: (-) 200mA Channel 2 (Trunk) Output
8. Brown / White Wire: (-) 200mA Horn Output (Programmable)
9. Yellow Wire: (-) 200mA Ignition 3 Control Output
10. Blue / Black Wire: (-) 200mA Accessory 2 Control Output
11. Orange / White Wire: ( -) 20 0mA Grounded Output When Disarmed
12. Orange Wire: (-) 500mA Grounded Output When Armed
13. White / Violet Wire: (+) Brake Switch Shut Down Input
14. White / Black Wire: (-) Negative Hood Pin Safety Shut Down
15. White / Red Wire: Tachometer Signal Input
16. Violet Wire: Zone 3 (+) Positive Door Trigger
17. Green Wire : Zone 3 (-) Negative Door Pin Trigger
18. White / Blue Wire: (-) Instant Start and Turn Off Input
19. White / Green Wire: (-) Diesel Wait-To-Start Input
20. Blue Wire:(-) Zone 2 Negative Hood/Trunk trigger

Soldering is fun!
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I have the manual. I can email the list I tried to post before. I put together a spread sheet withe the system on one side and then on the other I have the truck. Then I matched the wires up amd where the location of the wire was.   Ill try to do it again
super03duty 
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< size=3 face=Calibri>SYSTEM WIRES < size=3 face=Calibri>PIN# < size=3 face=Calibri>TRUCK WIRE < size=3 face=Calibri>LOCATION
< size=3 face=Calibri>H10. 20 PIN CONNECTOR < size=3 face=Calibri> < size=3 face=Calibri> < size=3 face=Calibri>
< size=3 face=Calibri>Black / White Wire: (-) Neutral Safety Switc h Input < size=3 face=Calibri>H1 < size=3 face=Calibri>GROUND < size=3 face=Calibri>
< size=3 face=Calibri>Black / Violet Wire: (-) 200 mA Channel 6 Programmable Output < size=3 face=Calibri>H2 < size=3 face=Calibri>NOT USED < size=3 face=Calibri>
< size=3 face=Calibri>Pink Wire: 2-Step Unlock /Factory Disarm /Sensor By-pass < size=3 face=Calibri>H3 < size=3 face=Calibri>PINK/LTGREEN < size=3 face=Calibri>KICK PANEL
< size=3 face=Calibri>White Wire: (-) 200mA Dome Light Control Output < size=3 face=Calibri>H4 < size=3 face=Calibri>BLK/LT BLUE < size=3 face=Calibri>PASS KICK PANEL
< size=3 face=Calibri>Black / Red Wire: (-) 200 mA Channel 5 Programmable Output < size=3 face=Calibri>H5 < size=3 face=Calibri>NOT USED < size=3 face=Calibri>
< size=3 face=Calibri>Bl ack / Green Wire: ( -) 20 0mA Chann el 4 Programmable Output < size=3 face=Calibri>H6 < size=3 face=Calibri>NOT USED < size=3 face=Calibri>
< size=3 face=Calibri>Gray Wire: (-) 200mA Channel 2 (Trunk) Output < size=3 face=Calibri>H7 < size=3 face=Calibri>NOT USED < size=3 face=Calibri>
< size=3 face=Calibri>Brown / White Wire: (-) 200mA Horn Output (P rogrammable) < size=3 face=Calibri>H8 < size=3 face=Calibri>BLUE < size=3 face=Calibri>STEERING COLUMN
< size=3 face=Calibri>Yellow Wire: (-) 200mA Ig nition 3 Control Output < size=3 face=Calibri>H9 < size=3 face=Calibri>NOT USED < size=3 face=Calibri>
< size=3 face=Calibri>Blue / Black Wire: (-) 200mA Accessory 2 Control Output < size=3 face=Calibri>H10 < size=3 face=Calibri>BLUE/LT GREEN < size=3 face=Calibri>IGNITION HARNESS
< size=3 face=Calibri>Blue Wire:(-) Zone 2 Negative Hood/Trunk trigger < size=3 face=Calibri>H20 < size=3 face=Calibri> < size=3 face=Calibri>HOOD SWITCH
< size=3 face=Calibri>White / Green Wire: (-) Diesel Wait-To-Start Input < size=3 face=Calibri>H19 < size=3 face=Calibri>VLT/OR-WT/LTGN < size=3 face=Calibri>
< size=3 face=Calibri>White / Blue Wire: (-) Instant Start and Turn Off Input < size=3 face=Calibri>H18 < size=3 face=Calibri> < size=3 face=Calibri>
< size=3 face=Calibri>Green Wire : Zone 3 (-) Negative Door Pin Trigger < size=3 face=Calibri>H17 < size=3 face=Calibri>NOT USED < size=3 face=Calibri>
< size=3 face=Calibri>Violet Wire: Zone 3 (+) Positive Door Trigger < size=3 face=Calibri>H16 < size=3 face=Calibri>BLK/BLUE (+) < size=3 face=Calibri>KICK PANEL
< size=3 face=Calibri>White / Red Wire: Tachometer Signal Input < size=3 face=Calibri>H15 < size=3 face=Calibri>WHT/PINK (-) < size=3 face=Calibri>BCM
< size=3 face=Calibri>White / Black Wire: (-) Negative Hood Pin Safety Shut Down < size=3 face=Calibri>H14 < size=3 face=Calibri> < size=3 face=Calibri>HOOD SWITCH
< size=3 face=Calibri>White / Violet Wire: (+) Brake Switch Shut Down Input < size=3 face=Calibri>H13 < size=3 face=Calibri>LT GREEN (+) < size=3 face=Calibri>BRAKE SWITCH
< size=3 face=Calibri>Orange Wire: (-) 500mA Grounded Output When Armed < size=3 face=Calibri>H12 < size=3 face=Calibri>NOT USED < size=3 face=Calibri>
< size=3 face=Calibri>Orange / White Wire: ( -) 20 0mA Grounded Output When Disar med < size=3 face=Calibri>H11 < size=3 face=Calibri>NOT USED < size=3 face=Calibri>
< size=3 face=Calibri> < size=3 face=Calibri> < size=3 face=Calibri> < size=3 face=Calibri>
< size=3 face=Calibri>H1 6 PIN HEAVY GAUGE WIRE HARNESS < size=3 face=Calibri> < size=3 face=Calibri> < size=3 face=Calibri>
< size=3 face=Calibri>Red: Remote Start Power 1 < size=3 face=Calibri> < size=3 face=Calibri>YELLOW < size=3 face=Calibri>IGNITION HARNESS
< size=3 face=Calibri>Red: Remote Start Power 2 < size=3 face=Calibri> < size=3 face=Calibri>GREEN/ VIOLET < size=3 face=Calibri>IGNITION HARNESS
< size=3 face=Calibri>Violet: Starter (+) Output < size=3 face=Calibri> < size=3 face=Calibri>GREEN (12V START ONLY) < size=3 face=Calibri>IGNITION HARNESS
< size=3 face=Calibri>Pink: Ignition 2 (+) Output < size=3 face=Calibri> < size=3 face=Calibri>RD/BLK (12V ON) < size=3 face=Calibri>IGNITION HARNESS
< size=3 face=Calibri>Yellow: Ignition 1 (+) Output < size=3 face=Calibri> < size=3 face=Calibri>RD/LT GRN - WHT / YELLOW (12V ON) < size=3 face=Calibri>IGNITION HARNESS
< size=3 face=Calibri>Brown: Acc/Heater (+) Output < size=3 face=Calibri> < size=3 face=Calibri>GRAY / YELLOW (12V ACC) < size=3 face=Calibri>IGNITION HARNESS
< size=3 face=Calibri> < size=3 face=Calibri> < size=3 face=Calibri> < size=3 face=Calibri>
< size=3 face=Calibri>H2 5 PIN WIRE HARNESS < size=3 face=Calibri> < size=3 face=Calibri> < size=3 face=Calibri>
< size=3 face=Calibri>RED / White: Parking Light Relay Power Input < size=3 face=Calibri> < size=3 face=Calibri> < size=3 face=Calibri>
< size=3 face=Calibri>White: Parking Light Relay Output < size=3 face=Calibri> < size=3 face=Calibri> < size=3 face=Calibri>
< size=3 face=Calibri>Black: System Main Ground (-) < size=3 face=Calibri> < size=3 face=Calibri>GROUND < size=3 face=Calibri>
< size=3 face=Calibri>Brown: Siren (+) Output < size=3 face=Calibri> < size=3 face=Calibri>TO THE SIREN < size=3 face=Calibri>
< size=3 face=Calibri>Red: 12v + Battery Power < size=3 face=Calibri> < size=3 face=Calibri>CONS 12V
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