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marc22 
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Posted: February 28, 2013 at 12:48 PM / IP Logged  

Using Offroadzj's template I believe I have everything listed correctly.  I really get lost on the RS output wires and the Evo-Can wires going to the RS.  A couple of the Start wires are throwing me because my vehicle Wiring Info shows no 2nd (or 3rd) ignition wires but I do have a Second Starter. I've put ?? in areas I don't know but please look at everything as I may have listed items incorrectly.

Any help filling in the blanks is greatly appreciated!

Here are the links to wiring guides. Thanks to Kreg357 for giving me this information.

Python:  https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/file.asp?ID=1183 , https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/file.asp?ID=1184

Evo Can:  https://ifar.ca/download/3915/preview.html

Vehicle:  http://www.readyremote.com/main.asp?make=Kia

Vehicle: 2011 Kia Sportage Ex PTS
Remote Start Unit: Python 1401
Bypass Module: Fortin Evo-Can
Alarm / Remote Start / Bypass Unit Vehicle
Connection Color Description Color Polarity Location:
Main Harness (H1) 12 pin  
H1/1 RED / White (-)200mA Trunk release output Yellow/Black (-) Dash fuse box, White 54 pin plug(D), pin 16
H1/2 Red  (+)12VC Constant input Red (+) Dash fuse box, 3 pin, pin 1
H1/3 Brown (-)200mA Horn honk output Do Not Want Horn To Honk
H1/4 WHITE/ Brown Light Flash Insolation Wire ?? ?? ??
H1/5 Black (-)Chassis ground   Chassis
H1/6 Violet (+) Door trigger input Not Used
H1/7 Blue Factory horn input Do Not Want Horn To Honk
H1/8 Green (-) Door Trigger GREEN/ Orange (-) Dash fuse box, White 54 pin plug(D), pin 10
H1/9 BLACK/ White (-) 200mA Dome light output Brown (-) BCM above gas pedal, gray 24 pin plug, pin 5
H1/10 WHITE/ Blue (-) Remote Start/Turbo timer activation output ?? ?? ??
H1/11 White Parking light output Blue (-) Headlight switch, white 13 pin plug, pin 1
H1/12 Orange (-)500mA ground when armed output   Chassis (??)
 
Door Lock 3 pin  
1 Blue (-)500mA unlock output Gray/Black (-) Dash fuse box, white 54 pin plug(D), pin 18
2 Empty  
3 Green (-) 500mA Lock output Blue/Black (-) Dash fuse box, white 54 pin plug(D), pin 40
 
H2 Harness 18 pin  
H2/1 Light GREEN/ Black (-) 200mA Factory alarm disarm output Brown AND Gray (-)&open Dash fuse box, white 54 pin plug(D), pins 14 AND 7
H2/2 ORANGE / Black (-) 200mA Aux 4 output Not Used (??)
H2/3 GREEN / WHITE (-) 200mA Factory alarm arm output Red AND Gray (-) both Dash fuse box, white 54 pin plug(D), pins 36 AND 7
H2/4 Violet/Black (-) 200mA Aux 2 output Not Used (??)
H2/5 WHITE/ Black (-) 200mA Aux 3 output Not Used (??)
H2/6 WHITE/ Violet (-) 200mA Aux 1 output Not Used (??)
H2/7 Gray/Black (-) Diesel wait to start input Not Used (??)
H2/8 Empty  
H2/9 Violet/White Tachometer input White AC Passenger kick, Yellow 24 pin plug, pin 4
H2/10 Dark Blue (-) 200mA Status output ?? ?? ??
H2/11 Pink/White (-) 200mA Flex relay control output ?? ?? ??
H2/12 ORANGE / Black (-) 200mA Accessory output ?? ?? ??
H2/13 Purple (-) 200mA Starter output ?? ?? ??
H2/14 Pink  (-)200mA Ignition 1 output ?? ?? ??
H2/15 Gray  (-) Hood input (nc or no) RED / Black (-) Dash fuse box, white 24 pin plug(B), pin 18
H2/16 Blue/White (-) 200mA 2nd status/rear defogger output Not Used (??)
H2/17 Brown Brake shutdown input GREEN/ Orange (+) Brake switch, white 4 pin plug, pin 1
H2/18 BLACK/ White (-) Neutral saftey input   Chassis (??)
 
Remote Start (H3) 8 pin  
H3/1 Pink Ignition 1 input/output Blue (+) Dash fuse box, rear white 54 pin plug(E), pin 25
H3/2 RED / White (+) Fused ignition 2/Flex relay input 87 Red (+) Dash fuse box, 3 pin, pin 1
H3/3 Orange Accessory output Blue (+) Dash fuse box, rear white 54 pin plug(E), pin 31
H3/4 Violet Starter output Red (+) Dash fuse box, rear white 54 pin plug(E), pin 1
H3/5 Red  (+) Fused ignition 1 input ?? ?? ??
H3/6 Pink/White Ignition 2/flex relay output ?? ?? ??
H3/7 Pink/Black flex relay input 87a key side(if req.) of flex relay ?? ?? ??
H3/8 RED / Black (+) fused accessory/starter input ?? ?? ??
 
 
Fortin Evo Can  
3 Pin Connection  
1   No Connection  
2 Gray/Black Can Low Red Dash fuse box, White 54 pin plug(D)
2 Gray  Can High Blue Dash fuse box, White 54 pin plug(D)
 
10 Pin Connection  
1 Yellow Ignition Blue (+) Dash fuse box, Rear White 54 pin plug€, Pin 25
2 No Connection  
3 Green Door Status ?? Connect to RS ??
4 White Trunk Status ?? Connect to RS ??
5 No Connection  
6 BROWN / White Hand Brake Status ?? Connect to RS ??
7 Pink/Black Hood Status ?? Connect to RS ??
8 No Connection  
9 Lt Blue/Black Data  WHITE/ Orange Keyless Module, Right side
10 No Connection  
 
6 Pin Connection  
1 No Connection  
2 No Conection  
3 Unlock Disarm   Connect to RS ??
4 Lock Arm   Connect to RS ??
5 Trunk Release Yellow/Black (-) Connect to RS ??
6 Ground While Running   Connect to RS ??
 
*****  
There is also a connection showing on the Bypass manual to run from the Start(+) to the Pink wire on   
Dash fuse box, white 24 pin plug(B), pin 1. Not sre what wire from the RS goes there.  

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offroadzj 
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Posted: February 28, 2013 at 1:19 PM / IP Logged  
Do you have the Push to start or regular key? If it is the push to start then your install is going to be a lot easier than what you posted. If it is a regular key, then you do not need the bypass but your arm / disarm setup is a bit of a PITA.
Kenny
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marc22 
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Posted: February 28, 2013 at 1:26 PM / IP Logged  

It is the PTS.  Easier is good for me!

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Posted: February 28, 2013 at 2:14 PM / IP Logged  
Then what you posted is completely wrong (but in a good way). I will work on correcting it once I get home from work (around 4) and post it up.
Kenny
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Posted: February 28, 2013 at 3:38 PM / IP Logged  
Here it is. Let me know if you have any questions:
Vehicle Information: 2011 Kia Sportage Push to Start   
Alarm / Remote Start Unit: Python 1401   
Bypass Module: Fortin EVO-CAN   
Alarm / Remote Start / Bypass Unit   Vehicle
Connection     Color     Description     Color     Polarity     Location:
Python 1401
H1/1     RED / White     (-)200mA trunk release output     **Connect directly to bypass (6 pin connector; yellow / black)
H1/2     Red      (+) 12v constant input      **Connect to red / white (H3/2) between unit and fuse.
H1/3     Brown     (-) Horn honk output     gray or white     -     driver kick, white 15 pin plug; pin 6
H1/4     White / Brown     light flash isolation wire     **No connection
H1/5     Black     (-) Chassis ground     ** Connect to factory ground bolt. Scrape off any paint if needed.
H1/6     Violet     (+) door trigger input     **No connection
H1/7     Blue     (-) factory horn input     **No connection
H1/8     Green     (-) door trigger input     **Connect directly to bypass (10 pin connector; green)
H1/9     Black / White     (-) 200mA dome light output     **No connection
H1/10     White / Blue     (-) remote start / turbo timer activation input     **No connection
H1/11     White     Parking light output     blue     -     headlight switch, white 13 pin plug; pin 1
     ** Change internal parking light jumper to (-)     
H1/12     Orange     (-) 500mA ground when armed output     **No connection
H2/1     light green / black     (-) 200mA factory alarm disarm output     **Connect directly to bypass (6 pin connector; purple / white)
H2/2     light green / white     (-) 200mA factory alarm arm output     **Connect directly to bypass (6 pin connector; purple)
H2/3     white / violet     (-) 200mA Aux 1 output     **No connection
H2/4     Violet / black     (-) 200mA Aux 2 output     **No connection
H2/5     White / black     (-) 200mA Aux 3 output     **No connection
H2/6     light blue     (-) 200mA 2nd unlock output     **No connection
H2/7     gray / black     (-) diesel wait to start input     **No connection
H3/1     pink     ignition 1 input / output     blue     +     back of dash fuse panel (see bypass diagram)
H3/2     Red / white     (+) fused ignition 2 / flex relay input     Red (40amp)     +     front of dash fuse panel (see bypass diagram)
H3/3     orange     accessory output     blue     +     back of dash fuse panel (see bypass diagram)
H3/4     violet     starter output     pink     +     front of dash fuse panel (see bypass diagram)
H3/5     red       (+) fused ignition 1 input     **Connect with red / white (H3/2) wire.
H3/6     pink / white     ignition 2 / flex relay output     **No connection
H3/7     pink / black     flex relay input 87a key side     **No connection
H3/8     red / black     (+) fused accessory / starter input     **Connect with red / white (H3/2) wire.
1     black / white     (-) neutral safety switch input     **Connect to black (H1/5) wire.
2     violet / white     tachometer input     white     AC     passenger kick, yellow 24 pin plug; pin 4
3     brown     (+) brake shutdown input     green / orange - blue     +     brake switch, white 4 pin plug, pin 1 (blue on 2.0L model)
4     gray     n/o or n/c (-) hood pin switch input     **Connect directly to bypass (10 pin connector; pink / black). Install hood pin if no factory pin.
5     blue / white     (-) 200mA status / rear defogger output     **No connection
1     pink / white     (-) 200mA flex relay control output     **No connection
2     orange     (-) 200mA accessory output     **No connection
3     violet     (-) 200mA starter output     **No connection
4     pink     (-) 200mA ignition 1 output     **No connection
5     blue     (-) 200mA status output     **Connect directly to bypass (6 pin connector; dark blue)
1     blue     (+) lock / (-) unlock     **No connection
2     empty     
3     green     (-) lock / (+) unlock     **No connection
EVO-CAN
3 pin     gray / black     CAN low     red     CAN     back of dash fuse box (see bypass diagram)_
3 pin     gray / black     CAN high     blue     CAN     back of dash fuse box (see bypass diagram)_
10 pin     yellow     ignition     **Connect directly to H3/1
10 pin     green     door status     **Connect directly to H1/8
10 pin     white     trunk status     **No connection
10 pin     brown / white     hand brake status     **No connection
10 pin     pink / black     hood status     **Connect directly to remote start input harness; pin 4 (gray). Install hood pin if no factory pin.
     **If vehicle is not equipped with a factory hood pin, aftermarket pin must be added and this wire will have no connection.     
10 pin     light blue / black     Data     white / orange     DATA     keyless module (see bypass diagram)
6 pin     purple / white     unlock / disarm     **Connect directly to H2/1
6 pin     purple       lock / arm     **Connect directly to H2/2
6 pin     yellow/black     trunk release     **Connect directly to H1/1
6 pin     dark blue     ground while running     **Connect directly to remote start auxiliary harness; pin 5 (blue)
Edit: Not sure how you got it to format so nicely, but hopefully this isn't too confusing.
Kenny
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KKD Garage LLC
Albany, NY 12205
marc22 
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Posted: February 28, 2013 at 3:51 PM / IP Logged  

This looks like a HUGE help.  Thank you very much for taking the time to do this.  I'll read through it all tonight and let you know if I get stuck anywhere.

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Posted: February 28, 2013 at 4:04 PM / IP Logged  
How were you able to get your original post to format like that? Did you manually have to do it or am I just missing something... lol
Kenny
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Albany, NY 12205
marc22 
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I'm not sure really, I just filled in the boxes. I did move the column widths around to make room so maybe that's why it came out that way. 

If you are wanting to post it somewhere so others can use it I can enter all of your information like I did mine and email it to you.

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Posted: March 01, 2013 at 9:09 AM / IP Logged  
I don't know. I filled out the Excel and then copied it all and pasted into the reply box, but it automatically removed all of the spaces in the post. Oh well, not that big of a deal.
Kenny
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marc22 
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Posted: March 02, 2013 at 4:21 PM / IP Logged  
Well, it's all installed but the car won't remote start.
When the remote start button is pushed the lights flash and the doors unlock (which seems odd but I can live with it), I hear what I think is the fuel pump pressurizing and then the doors relock. That's it.
Suggestions please.
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