viper 5704, 2013 ram1500

I have ta 2013 ram 1500 no factory alarm installed( but i think its wired) no factory remote start. Is this all I need to get hooked up Viper 5704v and Fortin EVO-ALL? Thanksjw

Assuming your RAM is a non-PTS truck.  Going by this install guide ( https://ifar.ca/download/8111/preview.html ) you will need a 1k Ohm resistor and a 1N4001 diode plus fuse down the Viper to 5 Amps.  That, plus a FlashLink2 updater to flash the correct firmware and do the D-Cryptor process.

The EVO-ALL must be the latest hardware version ( Ver 6 ) and this firmware is considered Beta.  You could flash the EVO-ALL with the D2D box checked ( instead of the Fortin box ) and try going Viper DBI D2D data between the bypass and the R/S.  You could also buy the optional THAR-CHR3 harness but that wouldn't save too many wires / connections.  Personally, I'd do it all W2W.

Soldering is fun!

ok got the t-harness, evo-all, viper 5704 r/s and alarm. need to know if I hook up the bypass to the truck then the alarm r/s w2w to the bypass. then what to do with alarm wires that dont have a mate on the bypass. link1: link2: any help would be great Thanks JWjw

OK.  Let's make sure we are on the same page.  Here are my current understandings...

The vehicle is a 2013 Dodge RAM with the weird key that is plastic and fits into the ignition switch.

Vehicle does not have Push to Start.

You have an EVO-ALL bypass module that is Hardware Version 6.

You have the Fortin FlashLink Updater 2.0.

You have downloaded the necessary programs / files for FlashLink Manager onto your PC.

You are using a Viper 5704 remote start / alarm system.

You do not have a THAR-CHR3 harness or a BitWriter.

You want to go with the W2W type installation.

Here is the basic wiring ( all of this is shown in the very detailed EVO-ALL guide ) : 

Viper 5704 2013 Dodge RAM or EVO-ALL

H1/1 RED (+)12VDC CONSTANT INPUT           +12V Constant Battery Source        

H1/2 BLACK (-) CHASSIS GROUND       Solid Chassis Ground       H1/3 BROWN (+) SIREN 0UTPUT           Viper Siren   H1/4 WHITE/ BROWN PARKING LIGHT 87A       Not Used   H1/5 WHITE PARKING LIGHT OUT  *** Set to (-) & thru 1K resistor    RAM WHITE/ Brown @ Switch Black 10 Pin       H1/6 ORANGE (-) 500mA  G W A 0UTPUT          Not Used    

H2/1 PINK/WHITE (-) 200mA IGNITION/FLEX RELAY       Not Used    

H2/2 BLACK/ WHITE (-) NEUTRAL SAFETY INPUT Chassis Ground ( if Auto Trans )           H2/3 BLUE/WHITE (-) 200mA 2ND STATUS /REAR DEFOG        Not Used H2/4 GREEN/ BLACK (-) 200mA OEM ALARM DISARM     Not UsedH2/5 RED / WHITE (-) 200mA TRUNK RELEASE OUTPUT Not Used    H2/6 GREEN (-) D00R TRIGGER INPUT (N/C 0R N/0)                 EVO  Green Plug A,  Pin A4 H2/7 BLACK / YELLOW (-) 200mA DOME LIGHT SUPER   Not Used        H2/8 BROWN / BLACK (-) 200mA HORN HONK OUTPUT   Not Used   H2/9 DARK BLUE (-) 200mA STATUS OUTPUT    EVO Dark Blue Plug 4, Pin A8          H2/10 PINK (-) 200mA IGNITI0N 1 OUTPUT          Not UsedH2/11 WHITE/ BLACK (-) 200mA AUX 3 OUTPUT Not Used     H2/12 VIOLET (+) D00R TRIGGER INPUT Not Used        H2/13 WHITE/ VlOLET (-) 200mA AUX 1 OUTPUT Not Used    H2/14 VIOLET/BLACK (-) 200mA AUX 2 OUTPUT Not Used H2/15 ORANGE / BLACK (-) 200mA AUX 4 OUTPUT           Not Used    H2/16 BROWN (+) BRAKE SHUTD0WN INPUT    EVO Black Plug A, Pin A11        H2/17 GREY (-) H00D PIN INPUT (N/C 0R N/0)    Viper Hood Pin Switch      H2/18 VIOLET / YELLOW (-) 200mA STARTER OUTPUT   Not Used         H2/19 BLUE (-) TRUNK PIN / INSTANT TRIGGER INPUT (N/O) Not Used        H2/20 GREY/BLACK (-) DIESEL WAIT T0 START INPUT Not Used      H2/21 WHITE'/BLUE (-) REMOTE START/ TURBO TIMER INPUT   Not Used       H2/22 ORANGE (-) 200mA ACCESSORY OUTPUT           Not Used           H2/23 VIOLET/WHITE TACHOMETER INPUT            EVO Pink Plug A, Pin A12 H2/24 GREEN / WHITE (-) 200mA OEM ALARM ARM OUTPUT      Not Used  

H3 heavy wires

1 PINK (+) IGNITION 1 INPUT/OUTPUT   thru 1A diode to EVO Yellow Plug A, Pin A1 and RAM Pink/Light Green 2 RED / WHITE (30A) FUSED IGNITION 2 Not Used        3 ORANGE ACCESSORY OUTPUT        Not Used    4 VIOLET (+) STARTER OUTPUT (CAR SIDE)    EVO RED / Blue Plug A, Pin A9 5 GREEN (+) STARTER INPUT (KEY SIDE)       Not Used6 RED (+) FUSED (30A) IGNITION 1 INPUT      +12V Constant Battery Source 7 PINK/WHITE (+) IGNITION 2 / FLEX RELAY      Not Used     8 PINK/BLACK FLEX RELAY INPUT 87A             Not Used   9 RED / BLACK FUSED (30A) ACC/STARTER INPUT    +12V Constant Battery Source    

Door Lock

1  Blue  (-) 500 mA Unlock        EVO PURPLE / White Plug A, Pin A32  Green  (-) 500mA Lock          EVO Purple Plug A, Pin A2

EVO-ALL wiring ( not shown above )

Plug B ( power )

B4 Red to +12V Constant BatteryB3 Black to Chassis GroundB2 not usedB1 not used

Plug A

A10 Light Blue/Black to RAM chassis side of cut WHITE/ Green Data wireA15 Pink/Black to RAM Purple wire @ BCM Plug D, Pin 16A20 Light Blue to RAM chassis side of cut Purple Start signal wire

Plug C

C4 Gray/Black to RAM OBD2 Plug, Pin 14 ( Yellow wire, CAN Low )C3 Gray to RAM OBD2 Plug, Pin 6 ( Gray/White wire CAN High )

Plug D

D1 YELLOW /GREEN to RAM chassis side of cut Purple start signal wireD3 Yellow/Red to RAM switch side of cut Purple start signal wireD4 WHITE/ Green to RAM chassis side of cut WHITE/ Green Data wireD6 WHITE/ Red to RAM switch side of cut WHITE/ Green Data wire

You will be using Fortin Install Guide #7921.  Please note that is says the module should be

flashed with firmware Version 1.02.  That is not correct.  Use Firmware Version 74.01, which isthe recommended version shown in the FlashLink Manager program.

Just follow the EVO-ALL Install guide for module programming & the D Cryptor process.

There is Viper option programming necessary, too.  Set to Auto Trans, Tach Mode, etc... 

Soldering is fun!

Wow, I did not mean for you to type all that but thanks. Thanks for your help. Jut hooking up the evo and a r/s seemed straight forward but throw in the alarm I wasn't sure and not much info out there for the entire combination. I do have the THAR-CHR3 harness If it is easier not to use it, I will not. Do not have BitWriter. Thanks for your time James jw

Glad to help, James.

The THAR-CHR3 cable will save a few connections. 

You can do the Viper programming with the remotes, the BitWriter just makes it easier.

Soldering is fun!

I'm having a little confusion with the wire that needs to be fused down to 5 amp with the harness. Do I actually need that wire? The harness is a little different than the drawing. not sure which wire need fuse in this case. wiring with chr3 harness Thanks Jamesjw

never mind that was stupid of mejw

ok went slow soldered every connection, double checked every connection then when I hooked up evoall for programming I got nothing not even a red power light. I am using the t-harness(char). and in the data from the t-harness only a red and black are hooked up. I have nothing from data to r/s b/c im using the t-harness. Is this correct? When I put the evoall on the flash updater everthing reads fine Thanks James jw

Finally got my evoall Bypass to program but now Im having trouble. Dodge ram(2013), viper 5704, Fortin Evoall -Alarm arms, locks unlocks, parking lights flash when arming etc -Alarm triggers if I arm it then open the door from the inside.    Shuts off when I press unlock. -When I try to remote start it says error on the remote. -I also hear several clicks- similar to an old school blinker sound. Cant tell if it is some random relay or the r/s or bypass. -When I do the system check from the control unit the blue light flashes 7 times. -The parking lights do not flash at all during remote start. Any help would be great. I don’t know where to start trouble shooting. Thanks JW jw