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Posted: January 26, 2014 at 6:56 AM / IP Logged  
I am installing a Directed 4103 Remote Start on my Wife's 2009 Santa Fe. I am having trouble getting it to turn on.
I created a sub-harness so I could disconnect the install and plug the main wires back together which works perfectly for the OEM side But when I plug the unit in the relays won't click and none of the accessories come on.
I thought it was DOA but I gave the WHITE/ Blue Wire a negative trigger and the accessories came on then went off like the car was trying to start.
This is what I have connected.
Main Harness H1
H1/1: (-)Factory alarm disarm - N/A
H1/2: (-)Factory rearm - N/A
H1/3: (+)Ignition out (to alarm) - N/A
H1/4: (-)Activation Input - N/A
H1/5: (-)Ground when locked - Not connected yet
H1/6: (-)Horn Output - Not connected yet
H1/7: (-)Trunk Release Output - Not connected yet
H1/8: Ground - ground on kick panel
H1/9: (+/-) Light Flash - Not connected yet
4-pin satellite harness
1: (-)Status Output - N/A
2: (-) Accessory Output - N/A
3: (-) Starter Output - N/A
4: (-) Ignition Output - N/A
Heavy gauge relay wiring
1: (-) Output to Ignition Circuit - to ignition wire (Key Side)
2: (-) Output to Starter Circuit - to starter wire (Key Side)
3: (-) Output to Accessory Circuit - to accessory wire (Key Side)
4: (-) (30A) High Current 12 Input - to 12v common (Harness Side)
5: (-) Programmable output for accessory or ignition - To Accessory 2 (Key Side
6: (-) (30A) High Current 12 Input - to 12v common (Harness Side)
Door lock harness
1: (-) Unlock output - to XK09 - N/A
2: N/A
3: (-) Unlock output - to XK09 - N/A
Remote start harness (H2)
H2/1: (-) Neutral safety switch input - Grouned to kickpanel
H2/2: Tachometer wire - Not Connected Yet
H2/3: (+) Brake switch shutdown - Not Connected yet
H2/4: (-) Hood pin switch - Not Connected yet
H2/5 (-) 200ma 2nd status/rear defogger output - Not Connected yet
Any input would be appreciated
Thank you in advance..
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Posted: January 26, 2014 at 7:24 AM / IP Logged  
On your heavy gauge harness what is meant by key side and harness side ?   Does the system respond to the lock/unlock commands ?
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pregunta 
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Posted: January 26, 2014 at 7:53 AM / IP Logged  
It does respond to door lock commands. Both from the remote and the door buttons.
When I say Key side or Harness side, I am referring to the sides the wires are attached to.
Key side are the wires attached to the ignition cylinder. Harness side are the wires going back to 12v source.
Forgot to mention, I don't have a bypass. I was told the US versions of this car don't have immobilizers.
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Posted: January 26, 2014 at 8:00 AM / IP Logged  
So you cut the factory wires and made a harness that goes in between ? All the remote start wires should go toward the truck side not key side. There shouldn't be immobilizer.
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Posted: January 26, 2014 at 8:08 AM / IP Logged  
Wait.?? All of the wires should be going to the truck side? If I did that how would the car know when I was turning the key if none of the wires on the key cylinder were attached.
Should I have been tapping into the heavy gauge wires not cutting them?
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Posted: January 26, 2014 at 8:20 AM / IP Logged  
Normally the ingition wires just get tapped into not cut. Take a look at the pictorial section. There's some pictures that show the ingition harness connections.
The 4103 doesn't have built in starter kill. The starter wire would be the only wire you cut if you wanted starter kill or anti-grind. You would need to add a relay for that option.
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Posted: January 26, 2014 at 8:29 AM / IP Logged  
Sorry, to ask you this but I am getting lost in the array of links. Can you point me in the right direction -> Pictorial Section
And thank you for your help. I'll let you know how it turns out.
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Found it. Thank you
pregunta 
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Posted: January 26, 2014 at 9:12 PM / IP Logged  
looking for a negative trigger to activate the remote start. Any ideas?
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Posted: January 26, 2014 at 9:15 PM / IP Logged  
You can use the activation input off the lock motor wire. Use a relay to change polarity.
Did you get the rest working ?
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