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2000 accord ex avital 4105l pkall


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lc93 
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Posted: January 05, 2018 at 10:30 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote lc93
If someone can please help I really just want to enjoy my weekend but I want this auto start to work. Minnesotas negative weather is killing me.
So I purchased this kit installed in myself and this is what I got. Avital 4105l with a pkall bypass.
The remote lock works. It cranks but doesn't turn on. Also when I lock and unlock I get no parkjng light that flashes not sure if it's suppose to.
From the 4105 I wire
Heavy gauge relay
Two red to white ignition switch
Purple into black white "IS"
Pink into black yellow "IS"
Orange into yellow "IS
White black into "IS.
Primary harness
Light green to blue wire inside drivers door window switch
Greenwhite didn't use
Yellow didn't use
White blue didn't use
Orange didn't use
Brown to light green blue harness steering column
Red white didn't use
Black to ground
White to red black driver side fuse box
Remote start harness 5 pin
Black white parking brake to ground
Violet white to blue single in engine bay on strut tower
Brown to white black brake
Gray to hood pin
Blue white didn't use
Satellite 4 pin
Didn't use any
Door lock
Blue to blue orange
Green to orange
D2D harness
Red side of the pkall harness plug in
On Pkall 6 pin connector
Purple white splice with orange brown from the 4 pin connector into red wire that's been cut into two wired into ignition side
Yellow black into blue synchro
Blue white didn't use (this the one in confuse on)
Green didn't use
Pink into yellow black ignition
Black didn't use
4 pin connector
Light green into red firewall side data
Orange brown splice with purple white
Orange green didn't use
Brown didn't use
I think I programmed it correct too for the pkall
Please help sorry it's a mess
kreg357 
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Posted: January 06, 2018 at 6:59 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote kreg357
Here are some updates / corrections :
This looks OK with one up date
Heavy gauge relay
Two red to white ignition switch
Purple into black white "IS"
Pink into black yellow "IS"
Orange into yellow "IS
Pink/White to White black at "IS   plus programmed Menu 2, Feature 6 to Option 2 fo ACC output
This looks OK with one suggestion :
Primary harness
Light green to blue wire inside drivers door window switch
Greenwhite didn't use
Yellow didn't use
White blue didn't use
Orange didn't use
Brown to light green blue harness steering column
Red white didn't use
Black to ground
White to red black driver side fuse box     plus set 4105 Parking Light Jumper to (+)
This is OK for auto trans vehicle.
Remote start harness 5 pin
Black white parking brake to ground
Violet white to blue single in engine bay on strut tower
Brown to white black brake
Gray to hood pin
Blue/White    see PKALL info below
This wiring looks off, possible typo because you said the locks work?
Door lock
Blue to blue orange    should be Black/Blue
Green to orange    OK
It appears that you have the EX model and you want to run in Tach Mode
due to the Tach wire connection. In Tach Mode you should program the
Viper to Menu 2, Feature 1, Option 4. Additionally, you should perform
the Tach Learn Process.
Your main problem is with the PKALL. All of the wiring looks OK but with the omission
of the Blue/White GWR wire it won't turn on the bypass the transponder and you should
be getting a flashing Green Key symbol on the instrument cluster during the remote start attempt.
D2D harness
Red side of the pkall harness plug in
On Pkall 6 pin connector
Purple white splice with orange brown from the 4 pin connector into red wire that's been cut into two wired into ignition side
Yellow black into blue synchro
Blue/White to Viper 4105 Blue/White wire in Remote Start 5 Pin Harness *
Green didn't use
Pink into yellow black ignition
Black didn't use
4 pin connector
Light green into red firewall side data
Orange brown splice with purple white
Orange green didn't use
Brown didn't use
* The Viper Blue/White can be used for the Defroster turn on but default programming has it
set for (-) Status Output ( aka GWR ) and can be used to turn on the bypass module.
Soldering is fun!
lc93 
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Posted: January 06, 2018 at 12:02 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote lc93
Thanks for the quick response.
So I should set the 4105 parking light jumper to (+). How do I do that sorry about the confusion.
kreg357 
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Posted: January 06, 2018 at 2:27 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote kreg357
There should have been a two pin jumper plug taped to the 4105 unit with red or orange tape. If you look real closely
at the bottom side of the 4105, there are the 3 pin position instructions press molded into the plastic. Basically the
two pins on the outside are for (-) and the two pins on the inside are for (+). The middle pin is the 3 pins is always
used. The jumper pins are on the side of the module.
Soldering is fun!
lc93 
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Posted: January 06, 2018 at 3:11 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote lc93
Alright so I have pink white wire set to menu feature 6 option 2
Tach
Feature 1 menu 2 to option 4
My blue white wire from the pkall wired into blue white 5 pin harness on the avital
When I auto start it still crank doesn't turn on still get a green key flashing
The avital led also come on when I auto start the pkall red led come on
I'm lost now anyone?
lc93 
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Posted: January 06, 2018 at 3:26 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote lc93
Got the jumper figures out thanks for that
Now when I unlock the avital led dies when I lock it flashes
lc93 
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Posted: January 06, 2018 at 3:53 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote lc93
So going trough my wiring for door locks
I did blue to blue orange and green to orange black
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Posted: January 06, 2018 at 5:04 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote kreg357
Unplug the PKALL D2D harness. Place a working ignition key into the ignition switch but do
not turn it. Try a remote start. If it starts and runs, everything is good except the bypass module.
Double check all your bypass module connections. They should be properly soldered and insulated.
Try reprogramming the bypass module.
For the door locks, here is some additional info. It would appear testing will be mandatory.
Bulldog Security
POWER LOCK   BLACK/BLUE (TYPE B)     IN PASSENGER SIDE FUSEBOX GREEN 20 PIN PLUG
POWER UNLOCK   ORANGE (TYPE B)    IN PASSENGER SIDE FUSEBOX GREEN 20 PIN PLUG
Omega
EX Model Access Door Locks At Passengers Side Multiplex 20 Pin GREEN Connnector
Unlock        BLUE/ORANGE (-)           Pin 4
Lock           BLACK/ORANGE(-)        Pin 16
Soldering is fun!
lc93 
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Posted: January 06, 2018 at 5:28 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote lc93
So with key in the ignition and d2d unplugged the the cranks but doesn't start
kreg357 
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Posted: January 06, 2018 at 5:31 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote kreg357
Is the Green Key symbol still flashing on the instrument cluster during the R/S attempt?
Soldering is fun!
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