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asianboi 
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Posted: October 09, 2002 at 3:03 PM / IP Logged  

Can someone take a look at that diagram and tell me if I really need a relay for the DOME light.  By the way, my siren came with two wires, but there is only one BROWN wire from the alarm's brain.  How can i hook that up?  Can you please explain to me as much as you can. Thanks a bunch!

crimestopper on 99 civic -- posted image.

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Yes you will need a relay because most systems that have a dome light circuit in it's board only gives this wire a 200ma output current, enough to flip over a relay but not enough to energize the dome light. The BROWN wire is the 12 volts + of the siren. The other wire on the siren you GROUND to the frame of the car somewhere near it.
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Only use the relay if you want to hook up domelight supervision. That means if you want the dome lights to light up when you disarm the alarm. If your asking about the dome light trigger wire, you will only need to use the green wire from the alarm to hook up straight to the negative trigger of the car. You don't need to hook up the violet wire. Hook up the brown wire from the alrm to the red of the siren. The black from the siren you must ground to the car.
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Posted: October 10, 2002 at 6:49 AM / IP Logged  

Ok, lets say that I want to hook up the "domelight supervision", I would definitely need a relay right?

Can you look at the diagram again where you see the BLACK/ WHITE(dome light output).  There is a relay in between the wire.  It seems to me that I need to put the relay between the BLACK/ WHITE wire that is from the alarm.  Does that mean I have to cut it in half or something like that? Why there has a + sign in the circle?  Where does that connect to? What about the box that has the + or then an arrow down, what is that?

Another thing, Can you look at the Orange wire too? I can see that I would need to hook at wire to a relay #86, but what about #85, where does that connect to, is it IGNITION ON & START? Is that mean #85 is hooking up to another wire that is called the IGNITION on & start?

Then I have to CUT the starter wire and wire one end to #87A & the other end to #30?

Where can I find the Passenger UNLOCK output wire in the car, is it the same wire for the unlock wire??

I'm really sorry to confuse yall.  I hope my questions are clear enough so you guys can help me with the explanation.

Best regards,

Brian

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Posted: October 10, 2002 at 7:00 AM / IP Logged  

85 goes to the ignition wire for the starter kill.

As far as the dome light, you need to test the the wire that lights up the domelight. Most likely it is positive. In the box you are asking about, you need to hook up the same kind of power (negative or positive that would light up the dome light).

The relay is between the alarm and the dome light to show where you have to put it. If you notice, negative is coming from the alarm. You will use the relay to convert to positive in order for the domelights to work.

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Posted: October 10, 2002 at 8:12 AM / IP Logged  

"The relay is between the alarm and the dome light to show where you have to put it. "

So the BLACK/ WHITE wire has to be connected to be connected to Relay # 86 instead of #85?  The picture is kinda blurry, and I'm very sorry about that.

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Posted: October 10, 2002 at 8:37 AM / IP Logged  

crimestopper on 99 civic -- posted image.

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asianboi 
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Posted: October 10, 2002 at 8:47 AM / IP Logged  

ahhh thanks for the picture! Let me know if I understand this.

To sum up, #86 goes to alarm dome light(the wire from the alarm)

#30 to the pin Door(which mean I do not need to connect the violet wire to the (-) pin door, since it will be used by #30)
#85 will be connected to a 12volt wire or to any fuse that has 12 volt??
#87 will be connected to a (-) or ground

If I am right, then I have to get extra wires for those legs.(#85,#87)

Sorry for sounding so dumb

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Posted: October 10, 2002 at 8:53 AM / IP Logged  

You still need to connect the GREEN ( not VIOLET ) to the alarm system otherwise the alarm system won't activate if the doors are open. You can piggyback wires when using a relay.so make sure that you take the GREEN wire of the alarm and attach it to the door trigger wire of the Civic ( LIGHT GREEN/ RED ) and to pin 30 of the relay. Other than that, everything else you posted is correct.

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asianboi 
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Posted: October 10, 2002 at 9:26 AM / IP Logged  

Oh no.. just found out something and I want to ask.

There is a yellow wire in the diagram that is connect to the FUSE BOX then that little circle with the - sign.  Can you tell me what that - in the circle is.. it is the keywhole like one on the bottom right corner?

IF NOT, then I guess the yellow wire can be hooked to the fuse box inside the car right?

Can you tell me which wire is for the PASSENGER UNLOCK OUTPUT? BEcause it is shown in the diagram.

Thanks a million for your great effort! You guys are the bomb!!!

Brian

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