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avistart 4100, ’06 vibe, accessory wire?


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I installed the Avistart 4100 on my 2006 Vibe today, remote start and door locks working but when in remote start the Accessories such as blower, a/c, heater do not work. I wired the accessory wire form the alarm module to the RED / blue wire in the ignition harness per the wire diagram on this site but it still does not work. Any suggestions? Also, the remote hatch release does not work either even when connected to the blue/white wire at the switch. Any suggestions here as well? Thanks.
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you said "RED / blue" but i hope you meant "blue/red" for the accessory wire on your 2006 vibe, because it's a blue wire with a red stripe.

There is an orange heavy gauge wire (30A) from the Avital that you should have connected to the blue/red wire of the Vibe:

http://www.directeddealers.com/manuals/ig/avital/N831002_07-05.pdf 

There is a RED / wire (thin gauge wire) H1/7 from the Avital that is a -200mA signal that should connect to the blue/white wire of the Vibe.  However, i would connect this wire to a relay and let this signal relay a grounded signal to the blue/white wire so you don't accidentally blow a transistor on the avital circuit board.

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For Accessories:
Orange wire (module) to blue/red (blue/red stripe) in ignition harness
Connected like this the accessories do not work. Is there another wire that needs to have power?
For Hatch Glass:
RED / White (module) to Blue/White(at switch
Sounds like I need a relay for the hatch?
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did you voltmeter the blue/red wire of the Vibe with the key in ACC and ON positions? If so, what voltage did you get?

I would voltmeter the orange wire separately (disconnect it from the blue red wire) and verify that it's outputting 12 volts.

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I remote started the car and checked voltage at the ignition switch (blue/red) pin, with the connector plugged in/out of ignition switch. It showed 12 volts.
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yes, but did you also VM the orange wire coming off the r/s brain??
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I see what you're saying -- so when you r/s the car, the blue/red is getting 12 volts from the r/s brain.  Hmmm....

Two igntion wires .. are they both hooked up? 

Here's is *pdf file that on page 2 shows that there is only a blue-red wire that supplies the accessories:

http://www.illformedpragma.com/matrix/reference/repair_manuals/2003/Wiring%20Manual/systemci/012ps.pdf

Do you have BOTH igntion wires hooked up?  If not, your accessories may not work. The one you need to specifically look at hooking up is the BLACK-YELLOW wire (thinner gauge wire) .. this is part of a relay system that provides power to heater, accessories etc along with the blue/red wire.

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Yeah, they are both hooked up. I am tired of testing...I think I will get some sleep and hit it again in the morning. Thanks for the help I will let you know what I find in the morning.
As far as the hatch goes...just get a relay and have it output to the blue/white wire right?
I need to get an extra relay as well so I can setup a "anti-grind" circuit...seems simple enough from the diagrams.
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Yeah -- just get a relay and wire as follows:

85: 12 volts fused +

86: remote starter output wire (RED / white) -

30: chassis ground

87: blue/white wire at hatch switch

Also, meter this RED / white wire to make sure it's dropping to 0 vdc (ground) when the trunk output button is triggered (must hold trunk button for > 1.5 seconds)

Anti-grind -- yeahp... simple as it looks -- lemme know if you have any issues with it.

best of luck

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**Update**
I did some more testing this morning and discovered that one of my connections was not that great. It was the pink/white wire (from module) to the BLACK / YELLOW wire in the ignition harness. I checked voltage with the key in the "on" position and there was 12V there, when in remote start there wasn't any voltage there. I fixed the problem and now the car will not remote start with the pink/white wire connected to the BLACK / YELLOW, only when disconnected it will start...any idea's? It seems like it would work if I could figure that part out. Please help?
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